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HQ
Cato Sicarius 200pts

Terminator Librarian with Combi plasma(Might of the Ancients/Avenger) 130pts
Elite
Terminator Squad with Assault Cannon and Land Raider 480pts

Assault Terminator Squad with TH/SS and Land Raider 450pts

Troops
Tactical 10 man Plasma Gun/HB + Rhino X2 430pts

Tactical 10 man Sgt PF, Meltagun/Multimelta Rhino X2 470pts

Hvy Support
Predator Autocannon plus HB sponsons X 2 170pts

Predator Lascannon plus Lascannon Sponsons 165pts

2500pts

I thought that with Power of the Machine letting me split fire, this list would let me get in 5 TW LC shots a turn, which when coupled with the Melta squads would be sufficient anti tank. The Plas HB Tac squads, the Dakka preds, and the Ass. Cannon termies would cover anti infantry fire. I figure that Sicarius will let me either outflank or tank hunt with one of the melta squads. The Librarian and the Assault Termies are the only close combat element, is this a glaring weakness? is there anything else that I am really missing? I have heard Sicarius is not worth the points, but I always seem to get results from him.

For now, I think that spending 200 pts for Cato just to give one of your tac squads outflank/tank hunters is a little much. I'd drop him and take another librarian. Take null zone and avenger, and give a storm shield to both. This saves you 50 pts.

Next, I'd take two assault termi squads. Libby's travel with these guys, one with each. This saves you 30 points.

Now your predators. Las + las sponsons are really expensive! Drop it. At 85 points dakka preds are awesome anyway. 165 points saved.

Now, your tac squads. With the pts saved above you have 1145 points left. I'd take 6 tac squads in tl-las (or tl-asscan) razorbacks. This will add armour saturatation as well as give you more long range fire.

With any points left I'd look into getting some mm/hf land speeders.

The changes above give you much more firepower as well as make your oppenent think where he needs to shoot. Good luck!

Thank you very much! I thought that the codex said that I could take a dedicated transport land raider for one of each type of Terminator squad. Am I reading that incorrectly?
Thanks again for the advice!

No you are not 1 assault terminator squad and 1 normal terminator squad can take a landraider in the dedicated transport slot instead of the heavy slot.

True that. In any case I still recommend two assault termi squads at the expense of the third dakka pred.

Only 2 troops at 2,500 - you have no chance in an objective mission. If you are going to combat squd them then go razorbacks instead.

Not sure what Sicarius really adds to this list. There are better choices for 200 points.

Actually, there are 4 troops, I have X2 next to the tactical squads indicating they are doubled, sorry if this caused confusion.


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HQ
Terminator Librarian with Combi plasma(Might of the Ancients/Avenger) 130pts

Elite
Terminator Squad with Assault Cannon and Land Raider 480pts

Assault Terminator Squad with TH/SS and Land Raider 450pts

Troops
Tactical 10 man Plasma Gun/HB + TW LC Razorback X2 510PTS

Tactical 10 man Sgt PF, Meltagun/Multimelta X2 with 1 TW HB and 1TW LC 515 pts

Hvy Support
Predator Autocannon plus HB sponsons X 3 255pts

2340pts

2500pts


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also, with the wiggle room, I will include 2 MM land speeders and replace the HB razorback with another TW LC razorback.

I like it! I would just take 2 assault termie squads though if they are both riding in LRs, and I would take a different HQ, vulkan would do well with all the assault termies.

Razorbacks don't fit 10 men...

Barksdale wrote:Razorbacks don't fit 10 men...

Combat squads are 5 men...

I appreciate the greater value of more assault termies, but taking a sqaud of each is what allows me to take 2 land raiders, as only one of each type of squad may take a LR as a dedicated transport, (Not using a HS choice). So I am sacrificing the potential of more thunderhammers for a LR. I thought about Vulkan, do you think he would be worth the landspeeders to take?