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Im playing my friend 1000pts he has elves
heres what i have so far

Heroes

Konrad von cartien

core

50 zombies

50 zombies

30 zombies

special

5 black knights

rare

4 blood knights + Kestellan


1024

if i could make a suggestion, personally i would drop the kast in the bloodknights...forcing challenges could meen your kst is going to die (or not actually get to hit the unit while some enemy champ gets thrown to the wolves)

the other biiggg problem i can see is your General, konrad is not a caster and there for you may find yourself having alot of issues in the enemy magic phase and lacking in yours, presonally i would even splurge for a vamp LORD give him dark acolyte and lord of the ddead or summon ghouls

the other question i gotta ask is why so many zombies, they are cheap but they get chewed up by just about anything really really fast, and especially if your going against elves he will be able to dice up your guys rights quick, rememebr if you want zombies onthe feild you can always get for free

hwo do you feel about skellies or ghouls? (ghouls are alot better for fighting elves (tgh 4) with 2 poisned attacks each, they go right through elven paper mache armour.

just my first thoughts,im a fan of cavalry you just have to be super carfeul where you put them because rememebr his elves WILL go first and if your guys are trying to hit swordmasters or white lions, not even your bloodknights wil be doing anything..

Couple of thoughts here.

Personally, starting off, VC are magic heavy meaning they need to dominate the magic phase, not lack as rocksteady said. Personally i max out my lord and usually my hero's alotment taking a Vampire Lord with summon ghouls and helm of commandment (as you'll see i'm quite ghoul heavy) and then take a naked necro with a fairly naked Thrall. that way sacrifices can be made if necessary. Even if you keep a non-caster general, which is ok and a common build, you still have magic support to keep things comin, our biggest advantage.

Also, i see absolutly no reason to ever take zombies. ever. especially as the only troops option, they truely are over priced for what they do. thats what our nifty spells are for i've raise 22+ zombies in one turn and all they are good for is tarpitting and re-directing, literally nothing else unless you make them better through HoC and VDM. I lovegrowing them on the oppents side of the table and seeing them flounder at not being able to march within 6" Ghouls are amazing against almost anything. Even chaos warriors are no match for poison and elves practically die at your feet. yea, they lack a save of any kind, but they are so much more useful in combat. I still always take a skeleton unit for a bunker however.

as for the Calvary I can't say much. I've never used them. I do however find the Black Coach incredibly useful. sometimes if it doesn't power up it can be a point sink and die quickly, but other times it has won me the game. I'm an avid follower and nearly always take it. on paper it looks horrible but you get it to its fully powered epic ethreal flying-ness its nearly unstopable. Cairn wraiths are usually worth their points as well if used inteligently. Most armies, elves included, do not have magic weapon spam so ethreal creatures can cause mayhem if left unnoticed by your opponent. skaven are the exclusion however.

some other random tidbits, Vanhels Danse Macabre is sometimes considered over powered for a reason. That coupled with Helm of Command can make even zombies look decent. The only real tactic i've seen successful is quite simple: Push 'em forward and cast stuff. Other then that it's really a bit of a challenge. it takes some learning but I fully enjoy them. Invocation is your friend.

Sorry I got a bit word-y, but i hope that helps.

I changed it before i played the game and swapped the black knights to a necromancer.

its safe to say i lost his ten swordmasters killed 117 zombies in 4 turns whilst taking 3 casuties.

it was my inexperience that cost me

i refuse to take an 8pt ws2 skeleton in hindsight i would have taken gohols and taken a bit more casty vampre but thanks for the help anyway guys

sorry you lost...inexpiernece gets us all.
well, i''m glad that you had a magic phase of some sort. in all actuallity you reaaaally need more then 1 necromancer. glad to hear your considering an actual vampire next time though.
again...zombies are a deathwish unless you have a true strategy for them and even then the lowliest Skaven slave will beat them in combat. they should be reserved for speed bumps
I know that the pitiful stat line skeletons are hard to rake out those points for but they really do have their uses. for one they have decently costed command which gives you standards for the occasions when having a standard is pretty much the point of the game. ghouls are overall muuuuch better though. 2 poison attacks are awesome no matter who you are.

my personal liking for the build of a VC general is take a vampire lord, summon ghouls and helm of commandment. then you can summon as many ghouls as possible first turn and as long as you are in the 12 inch bubblethey become 2 attack ws 7 poison ghouls. epic. even better if you get VDM off on them.

sorry, i dont know if you really wanted my input or not, but i have some experience thats done me great against TK and HE and (semi decent) against Skaven and WoC.

Good luck on your next games

Thanks for you help

A VC and OnG alliance would be really interessting since the goblin spell ''Gift of the spider god'' gives a unit poisoned attacks or if it already is poisoned it makes the poisoned attack auto wound on 5+ =D imagine ghouls who auto wound on 5+ *insert evil laughter*

that would be awsome

now you can do that OnG army using VC as a pact in SoM lol

Thats why i am considering getting/starting VC xD