| Author |
Message |
 |
|
|
 |
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/29 22:49:08
Subject: BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Been Around the Block
Idaho, USA
|
I couldn't find anything on this, I checked the FAQ but couldn't find anything there either; so here is my question.
As it states in the Blood Angels codex:
Wings of Sanguinius:
This power is used in the librarian's movement phase and lasts for the rest of the turn. It allows the Librarian to move as if he had a jump pack. A Librarian riding a bike that uses the Wings of Sanguinius moves as if he were riding a jet bike.
Ok, so my question is this. If I give my librarian terminator armor, can I put him in a squad of Assault Marines and run him around with terminator armor?
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/29 23:05:52
Subject: Re:BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
|
Sure, why not? There's nothing in the rules that prohibits that. Keep in mind that he won't be able to use any other power (unless you shell out for Epistolary, pretty risky for a 2 wound model), plus the whole squad can only move 6" if he fails the test or if Wings gets Hooded.
I took Wings when I only had a 500 point army, since I couldn't afford a Jump Pack. It really sucked not being able to use another power.
|
Current Record: 5 Wins, 6 Draws, 3 Losses 2000 points
In Progress: 500 points
Coming Soon: |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/29 23:29:03
Subject: Re:BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Assault Kommando
|
what would happen if a player gave Wings of Sanguinius to a dreadnought librarian? how would it move?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/29 23:30:31
Subject: BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
Flying fridge!
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/29 23:30:38
Subject: BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
|
Like jump infantry?
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/29 23:38:47
Subject: Re:BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Assault Kommando
|
if the dread moved 12" how many weapons can it fire?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/29 23:44:39
Subject: BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
Look in the rulebook under walkers, and note how many weapons it says they can fire.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/29 23:44:40
Subject: Re:BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
|
Hellstorm wrote:if the dread moved 12" how many weapons can it fire?
As many as it usually can, same as jump infantry can fire after moving 12".
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/30 00:07:05
Subject: Re:BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Assault Kommando
|
it doesn't say it may shoot as jump infantry, just move. non-fast vehicles may not fire weapons if they move over 6".
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/30 00:22:03
Subject: BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Wolf Guard Bodyguard in Terminator Armor
|
IIRC dreads can always move and shoot since they are a walker, regardless of the limitiations on vehicle movement.
Back to the libby, the Assault squad cannot Sweeping Advance when he is attached either.
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/06/30 00:23:14
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/30 07:34:20
Subject: Re:BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
|
Hellstorm wrote:it doesn't say it may shoot as jump infantry, just move. non-fast vehicles may not fire weapons if they move over 6".
It's not moving at cruising speed, it's moving as jump infantry so has all the associated rules of jump infantry that turn. A dreadnought may always fire all of it's weapons unless it says otherwise even when it deepstrikes, but since it's already used it's psychic power by moving 12" it's limited to firing just the storm bolter/heavy flamer.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/30 08:41:30
Subject: BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
Sponge - no, it IS moving at cruising speed (assuming over 6") as it is a vehicle; the fact it is doing so because it is ALSO moving as JI doesnt change anything.
However when you look up a walker you can see it has the "may always fire all its weapons" rule.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/30 09:47:51
Subject: BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
|
I wouldn't say it's moving at cruising speed, because it move's like infantry, if it run's it's not running at cruising speed it's just running.
Anyway that's just semantics the end result is the same.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/30 10:20:21
Subject: BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
What you "say" is irrelevant; the rules only care how fast the vehicle moves. If the vehicle moves over 6", it is moving at cruising speed. No arguments possible, its in the rules!
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/30 13:32:43
Subject: BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
|
What i "say" IS relevant as what i "say" is based on my interpretation of the rules, whether you agree or not, and in this case it is you arguing an irrelevant point.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/30 13:33:34
Subject: BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Irked Blood Angel Scout with Combat Knife
|
As far as I can understand, the only think that stops walkers from shooting normally is when they run as specified pp72 BRB.
Moving like JI is still considered normal movement for a WoS equipped Dreadnought so I can't see why this would stop them from shooting.
|
I wanted to shoot a lot of plasma weapons, then I realised I like blood better so I have a lot of Power Weapons. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/30 15:52:13
Subject: BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
|
Marzooky wrote: A Librarian riding a bike that uses the Wings of Sanguinius moves as if he were riding a jet bike.
I don't have my codex on me, but I don't think this is right...
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/30 15:54:05
Subject: BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
That isnt correct. Good spot. He moves either as a bike OR as JI, but not a jet bike.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/30 17:51:08
Subject: Re:BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Been Around the Block
Idaho, USA
|
It is 100% correct, a librarian riding a bike that uses Wings of Sanguinius moves as if he were riding a jet bike. I'm staring at the entry right now.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/30 18:00:25
Subject: BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
|
I've used the wings, and it definitely states that it counts as a jet bike if he is on a bike. Agree with Marzooky. It's RIGHT in the book. If you're looking at a copy that says otherwise, yours is a fake
|
Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.
Manchu wrote:I'm a Catholic. We eat our God.
Due to work, I can usually only ship any sales or trades out on Saturday morning. Please trade/purchase with this in mind. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/01 07:27:15
Subject: BA Librarian Question
|
 |
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
That'll teach me for not finding the BA codex before posting. I think its an option ive just not seen anyone ever use....a bit like remembering that Vendettas can deepstrike!
|
|
|
 |
 |
|
|