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I'm kind of getting interested in pyschic powers. Which SM army can bring the most effective psychic powers to bear?

I'm sure most people will answer GK or maybe SW, but do any of the other SM armies have psychic abilities you could theme a list around?
   
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if you include chaos, then thousand sons do, but if you dont then im not sure. All chapters have librarians, but (i think) they are the only psychers


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I would say BA because they can take psykers in both HQ and Elite, the only problem is that it would be expensive points-wise and Librarians dont get an invulnerable save basic unlike other BA HQ choices.

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Manhattan, Ks

BA for sure, don't see any other army with a Librarian Dreadnought that can sprout wings.

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GK have some pretty good psychic powers on all of their units, and their Librarians have an absolutely amazing array of powers that you can buy for cheap to kit them out.

   
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It depends on the opponents you face often. If you get a lot of MC action then space wolves are the best with JOTW. But overall I like a plain SM librarian in Termie armor and SS to live and packing the spell to make them reroll invulnerables. If you want a second ability add in the jump ability and you have it all pretty much covered. You can argue that BA and GK have good abilities and CSM lash is good. However nothing is as pervasive as the rerolling of invulnerable saves and a psychic hood to screw with your opponent's pschic effects.

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I think it depends on what you want to do. Vanilla has Null Zone which is an amazing power against certain opponents. But you'll need to support it to take full advantage. If against Deathwing or similar you'll need AP2 to make it work.

BA and GK have more offensive powers, but they also both have powers that can be used on the opponent's turn. With BA you can give yourself a 5+ cover save on their turn and fire up an offensive power on your turn. GK can bump cover saves by +1 which is sweet when in a Storn Raven that just boosted to get a 4+... now it is 3+.

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Agreed w wlidstorm. The key is what opponents you face.
I have 3 daemon players in my area so the generic SM librarian is my favorite. If you play alot of tyrannids, I think SW are the best. But the BA and GK have their areas to shine also.

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GK defo

but if not GK it would have to probs be BA. Blood lance is killer

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GKs are the best psyker army, every man is one after all. Almost every power is useful, and every GK unit comes with a power that is useful for that unit. Stealth fields, anti charge fields, increased strength in combat, powerful shooting attacks, horde clearing CC powers, ability for vehicles to ignore shaken/stunned, shooting without line of sight, negating daemonic gifts, anti deepstrike fields, reserve manipulation, and the ability to summon backup/redeploy units. Hell, even the freaking techmarine has a useful power (reroll his repair). As for defense? All GKs have the aegis, which lowers leadership for the power that target them, and dreads have the reinforced aegis which makes it VERY hard to get powers off. Then they have to get passed a psychic hood, should they actually get the power off.

SWs have a couple of gimmick powers, one of which is kinda scary for some armies.

SMs have 1 power that matters, and a bunch of OK to crap ones. Since the one power that matters is about the only reason to run vanilla, all Vanilla lists should have the librarian with nullzone.

BA are the runners up, but even then they don't even come close the GKs when it comes to psychers.

 
   
 
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