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Tulsa, Ok, USA

Ok. Combo Strike.

For example I am going to use Mechanithralls as an example so everyone open your Cryx books to page 96.

Here is the wording of the rule.

"Make a Melee attack. Instead of making a normal damage roll the POW of the damage roll is equal to this model's STR plus twice the POW of this weapon.

SO... am I dealing 15 pts of damage total = P+P+S

OR

26 pts of damage = P+P+S of the roll plus the normal 11 P+S?


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Oxford, Great Britain

15 pts of damage total = P+P+S

It's phrased very oddly but that's the way it works.

Edit:

I just re-read it. It's 15 damage plus the damage roll. Phrased really oddly.

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Tulsa, Ok, USA

Ok, so its 15 + 2d6?

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15+2d6.

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Well I'll be damned I miss interpreted this one for a long time lol. I never used combo strikes because I thought they were rather limiting and I just used all my hits with my two arms and horns in my case because I figured I could do more damage that way. Thanks for the clearing that up.

I always thought from how I interpreted the book that the P+S + half the P of the weapon was added to the existing P+S to make it so you didn't need to roll for damage. Wow was I wrong. They should think about re wording that some how to make it a little less confusing.
   
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My copy says that it's twice the POW plus Strength. Depending on the armor of the target, you can do more with two punches vs a combo strike.

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I don't see how you could of gotten half of anything to be hoenst. As noted, it says twice the POW, plus Strength. POW is a stat and they detail the order of modifiers in the book (multiply/dvide before add/subtract).

As for targets, as noted, depends. Mechanithrals sometimes do better just going all-out since they can hit. Other tiems volume does them better because they are less likely to hit. Figuring out the averages and when to bet on them is kind of important, long-term.

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Can you do combo strike twice with a model like the slayer helljack that has two weapons with this ability?
   
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No. Combo Strike is a * Attack which replaces your normal melee attacks.
   
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12thRonin wrote:No. Combo Strike is a * Attack which replaces your normal melee attacks.


Hm...I think I'd rather run two boosted damage normal attacks instead of one, and boost the attack roll of one of the normal attacks.
   
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Milton, WI

That depends on the armor you are facing.

A boosted combo-strike may put more damage on a Devastator (ARM24) than 2 boosted damage normal strikes.

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skrulnik wrote:That depends on the armor you are facing.

A boosted combo-strike may put more damage on a Devastator (ARM24) than 2 boosted damage normal strikes.


You still have a greater potential for more damage with two boosted attacks vs. one combo strike. But you have to roll lower on the combo to actually start doing damage to high armor like that.
   
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Milton, WI

Greater potential damage, yes. But higher chance of doing nothing.

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You could also do the * attack combo strike with 3 focus on the jack and then buy 3 melee attacks after.
   
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TBH the wording claims "instead of a normal damage roll" That to me would be interpreted as not making a roll and just doing P+S +(DMG Roll) where DMG Roll = (P+P+S). Im not seeing how its P+P+S+(2D6)

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Read this thread remembering that the Macallan is an infernal and therefore his posts are the official way to play the game.

I totally agree that the wording is very confusing but if it was the way you say there wouldn't be much point in the ability.
   
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Thank you for the link that clears that up.

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