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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/13 06:19:13
Subject: Fighters of Baal Strike down (2750/2500 BA)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Been working on getting a BA list worked out for various points, and currently working on the 2500/2750 point lists. Previous list I built was really bad, but this one I feel is competitive, but I think needs some tweaking.
HQ - 195
195 - Librarian Epistolary w/Terminator & SS, Might of Heroes, Sanguine Sword, Boltgun
Elite - 470
170 - Sanguinary Priest (2x Models) w/Terminator Armour
300 - Assault Terminator squad, 4x TH/SS, 3x Claws
Troops - 1370
240 - Death Company (10x Models), 1 PW Weapon, 1 PW Fist
125 - Death Company Dread w/Blood Fists
125 - Death Company Dread w/Blood Fists
250 - Assault Squad (10x Models), Srg SS & PW Fist, Rhino
475 - Assault Squad (10x Models), Srg SS & PW Fist, LR Crusader w/MM & Extra Armour
155 - Assault Squad (5x Models), Razorback w/TL Lascannon
Fast Attack - 140
140 - Baal Predator w/Flamestorm Cannon, Sponson Heavy Flamers
Heavy Support - 575
215 - Stormraven w/TL MM, TL Assault Cannon, Extra Armour
215 - Stormraven w/TL MM, TL Assault Cannon, Extra Armour
145 - Vindicator
Plan is to put the Death Company and Termies/Libby behind the LR, Rhino, and Vindicator for deployment, embarking the Termies/Libby in LR and the Death Company in Rhino on turn 1 (Vindicator won't move until that happens to block LOS for death company). The two Stormravens carry Assault squad with Sanguinary Priests and the Death Dreadnoughts.
The LR and Rhino are the middle punch, Stormravens left and right flank. Razorback sits back and scores/provides some fire. Vindicator and Baal Predator are on a mission to take out Vehicles/Heavy Armour Units and Hordes. For 2500 I would drop the two Dreadnoughts.
Something about it just doesn't fit right in my mind, but I'm not sure what. Help/Comments would be wonderful! Thanks again guys!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/13 14:14:47
Subject: Fighters of Baal Strike down (2750/2500 BA)
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Tower of Power
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Hmmm I'm not keen on the mix of armour (one Rhino, one Razorback, one Land Raider, one Baal, one Vindicator and two Stormravens) as it can be easy to target prioritise against that tank and what's inside it. However, you do have a decent number of armour, thougto be fair six lots of armour isn't great at this points high level. I think there has been a lot of investment into high point units i.e Terminators, Death Company and Stormravens which hasn't left any points for much else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/13 15:03:40
Subject: Fighters of Baal Strike down (2750/2500 BA)
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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I'd drop a dc dread and buff the dc out with a chaplain. It makes them so much better on the charge.
Also dc dreads with blood talons are your friend, their ability to go through swarms cannot be underrated.
I am not sure about the baal loadout, it means to have to get very close to the enemy before you can start to haras them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/13 16:03:19
Subject: Fighters of Baal Strike down (2750/2500 BA)
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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You do realize you can start units in the Storm Raven right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/13 19:48:36
Subject: Re:Fighters of Baal Strike down (2750/2500 BA)
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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I agree with mercer. It's generally better to have multiples of stuff. You're doing that for the most critical thing, the Stormravens, at least. I also think you have too much wargear and toys. You don't need Epistolary, especially since you really want Shield, and you want Unleash Rage too. The Sanguinary Priests don't need TDA. You could easily get by with just 5 Terminators, and Storm Shields on the Assault Squads are kind of silly, given that you have 9 ablative Marines to protect the Fist. The Baal is also a waste; you have plenty of stuff that can kill MEQ and it's close to impossible to use both Flamer sponsons on the same turn. Take TL-PC on the Stormravens if you really want a little extra anti-MEQ; you'll shoot the MM most of the time anyway.
I also think the shenanigans you're pulling to get the 35 point transport discounts aren't worth it. It forces you to start the Stormravens on the board even when you have the second turn. Also, can you move flat out on a turn in which something embarks? At any rate, you end up using the hella expensive Stormraven to transport second-tier assault stuff that could have gotten there on their own, all for the sake of saving 70 points. I guarantee you end up wasting more than that of the Stormraven's potential by these maneuvers, and if you think the Stormravens won't be priority targets, I disagree. The DC Dreads are just too scary. Plus, you might make a mistake and let the DC get LoS to something, in which case they're pretty much out of the battle. They can't assault out of the Rhino anyway.
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