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Terminator with Assault Cannon





Florida

*Disclaimer* I am not a 'win at all costs' kind of player.

So my goal is to field something that will be fun, hopefully not cheesy, and yet still stand a chance at least against some opponents.

The following is a Single Land Raider list I am looking at:

HQ 225pts

Captain
combi-plasma, LC

Librarian
termi armor, storm bolter, Null, Gate

Elites 775pts

Dreadnought
DCCW+HF, MM

Ironclad
DCCW+HF, Seismic Hammer+meltagun, Drop Pod, Ironclad Launchers

Terminator Assualt Squad
3x LC, 2x TH/SS
LandRaider Redeemer
xArmor, MM

Troops 854pts

Scout Squad (x5)
Bolters, HB

Tactical (10)
ML, Flamer, Razorback (dozer, TL AssCannons)

Tactical (10)
Melta, ML, Razorback (dozer, TL LC)

Tactical (10)
Melta, MM, Razorback (dozer, TL LC)

Fast Attack 375pts

Assault Squad (10)
Flamer, Flamer, SGT (combat shield, power weapon, melta bombs)

Land Speeder
HF, MM

Land Speeder
HF, MM

Heavy Support 250pts

Predator
TL LC, HB

Predator
AC, LC


So tear it apart!
Note, I can swap in/out, 1 normal Land Raider, 2x dreads (just about every weapon combo available) and could through in some devastors. Note I only have ONE drop pod. I can also swap in more terminators with the second LR(dakka termies). I think that about covers it. I am basically set for now on buying anymore units. I am open to getting a special character like Vulcan though.

I am a total newb to fielding SM. But my thinking is that I have put enough AV on the field to:
1. Take the heat off the single LR (and it's a redeemer, so not an immediate threat to them)
2. Make them pay for concentrating on the single LR

I also I was thinking of screening the LR with the Razors if there is a lot of anti-tank going on. The B team combat squads with MLs would camp terrain/objectives. I think the Speeders can support the Ironclad if he gets into a mess, which he should

So let the flames roar!

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/07/20 12:37:10


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JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
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Well, first off, i would probably lose the captain. He's really not doing very much for his points value.

I'm not sure i get what the scouts are doing with bolters. Snipers would let them at least be sort of useful while they hold an objective. And, since you have tac halves sitting there already, i really don't see them being that useful.

I'm not really a big fan of the assault marines. They are so-so in combat, can barely hurt tanks at all, and although the flamers are nice, you already have other flamers on the speeders...and in general i just don't like assault marines in non BA armies, lol.

Since you only have 1 pod, i'm not sure i'd use it at all, or drop a REALLy cheap throw away unit. honestly, i think a regular dread would be better, since the extra range on the MM makes it more likely that you'll be in melta range in case of scatter. No matter what you drop in, with the amount of firepower that most 2500 point lists have, it is almost certainly going to be killed right away, and maybe the pod as well in a KP game. All of these things make me question how much you really want to drop in something.

I like the other dread, and would probably just take 2 (with MMs) and walk them up with the army or give them autocannons and sit them in the back.

The preds are fine, though i'd probably just pick one variant and bring 2-3. Either one (las / heavy bolter or autocannon / las) is probably fine, though i think autocannon / las is my favorite.

I'm also not really a fan of the single assault cannon razorback. Assault cannons are ok, but 1 doesn't usually do that much, and if for some reason the enemy doesn't like assault cannons, it's not hard to get rid of just 1. I'd probably take another las, or make them all las/plas.

You could do a Vulkan List. He makes a lot of stuff you already have pretty good. You could also do a 2 LR list, though you'd probably want more assault termies rather than shooty ones.

A Vulkan list could be something like:

Vulkan - 190

Lib, null zone and whatever - 100

10 Assault termies - 400 (can you not find 5 more assault termies? If not assaults could be ok, you just have to be way more careful what they attack...)

Land raider redeemer with MM for them - 250

Heavy support Land Raider Redeemer with MM - 250 (you combat squad them, 5 in each)

Dreadnought with MM / fist - 115
Dreadnought with MM / fist - 115

Tac, 5 extra guys, melta, missile, rhino - 210
Tac, 5 extra guys, melta, missile, rhino - 210
Tac, 5 extra guys, melta, missile, rhino - 210

1 Speeder, MM, Heavy Flamer - 70
1 Speeder, MM, Heavy Flamer - 70
1 Speeder, MM, Heavy Flamer - 70 (I guess try to borrow a third one?)

Pred, Auto / las - 120
Pred, Auto / las - 120

2500

So, i guess you're like, 1 speeder and 5 terminators short? Aassuming your razorbacks can be rhinos. Not everything is effected by vulkan (missiles, preds) but most other things are. You have 3 melta rhinos that are not really much of a target, 2 land raiders with pretty scary stuff inside, 2 dreads that can hide behind the other things before they get in range, 2 preds and 3 missile groups to hang out in the back. And all you really lose from your list are the captain, scouts, assault marines, and the razorbacks, most of which is made up for by the 5 more TH/SS terminators and their land raider.

Anyway, i hope that was at least a bit helpful :-P
   
Made in us
Terminator with Assault Cannon





Florida

Yes, thanks. I like your list just not sure if I want to commit to a 3rd speeder.

Also the assault cannon razorback was more because I have some cool resin bits to use for it and I just wanted to put it on the table

Like I said, I'm willing to sacrifice some competitiveness for playing something I like to look at, haha.

SickSix's Silver Skull WIP thread
My Youtube Channel
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
= Epic First Post.
 
   
Made in us
Terminator with Assault Cannon





Florida

UPDATE:

HQ 320pts

Vulcan

Librarian termi armor, storm bolter, Null, Gate

Elites 895pts

Dreadnought DCCW+HF, MM

Dreadnought DCCW+HF, MM

Terminator Assualt Squad 5x LC, 5x TH/SS LandRaider Redeemer xArmor, MM

Troops 640pts

Tactical (10) ML, Flamer, Rhino (dozer)

Tactical (10) Melta, ML, Rhino (dozer)

Tactical (10) Melta, MM, Rhino (dozer)

Fast Attack 140pts

Land Speeder HF, MM

Land Speeder HF, MM

Heavy Support 250pts

Land Raider (armor)

Predator AC, LC

Predator AC, LC

SickSix's Silver Skull WIP thread
My Youtube Channel
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
= Epic First Post.
 
   
 
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