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I was wondering if someone could clarify a few items with the orbital strike relay:

1. Does the person with the upgrade (say a tech marine) need LOS to fire the relay?

2. Do servo skulls take the d6 off the scatter even though the rules state it scatters the full 2d6 always?

3. Can the tech marine shoot the relay and another weapon in the same turn or does the OSR count as his shooting for the turn (Which I think it does)

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1: I would say yes. Since it counts as firing a ranged weapon and you need LOS to fire one.
2: It will always scatter 2D6"
3: You can only fire one weapon.

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1: Yes
2: No
3: No
   
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Biotox wrote:
3: You can only fire one weapon.



Sorry, I can't follow you... I've re-checked the GK Codex, the Techmarine's Harness rules states that you can fire 1 harness weapon + any other gun.
Ok, obviously the OSR is not a gun per se, but it is listed as a "weapon" (and described as a weapon with special firing conditions, as Infantry was never designed to use ordnance weaponry anyway). But the term "gun" is not defined anywhere in the 5th Ed Rulebook.
And nothing in the entry of the OSR clearly forbids using other equipment in the shooting phase.

So I'd say, OSR + either flamer or tl Plasmapistol firing is legit.
OSR + Bolter/BP would be wrong, of course, since they are not harness weapons.
   
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1. Do you mean Orbital Bombardments? Cause if you do, their profile says barrage, which means you can fire without LoS. Page 32, BRB.

2. Again, see Page 32

3. Counts as his shot.

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The orbital strike relay isn't an orbital bombardment. However there are some issues to address:

The "Barrage Bomb" is Str 6 AP 4 - Ordinance D3 large blast.

Looking in the rule book you see rules for barrages, which can fire without LOS, which use multiple templates. That would make sense for this weapon. However, it does not state it's a barrage weapon, just Ordinance D3. Does this mean you get D3 independent shots?

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2000 Volts wrote:The orbital strike relay isn't an orbital bombardment. However there are some issues to address:

The "Barrage Bomb" is Str 6 AP 4 - Ordinance D3 large blast.

Looking in the rule book you see rules for barrages, which can fire without LOS, which use multiple templates. That would make sense for this weapon. However, it does not state it's a barrage weapon, just Ordinance D3. Does this mean you get D3 independent shots?


"Barrage Bomb" is the name of the Weapon, the rules do not include "Barrage"(would be listed right after "Ordnance" as 1 term: "Ordnance Barrage"), the Barrage bomb still needs LOS, and still hits enemy vehicles on whatever facing the Firer is in.

Furthermore, Multiple barrage rules are for Multiple Weapons with the barrage rules firing, not a single weapon firing multiple shots.

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2000 Volts wrote:The orbital strike relay isn't an orbital bombardment. However there are some issues to address:

The "Barrage Bomb" is Str 6 AP 4 - Ordinance D3 large blast.

Looking in the rule book you see rules for barrages, which can fire without LOS, which use multiple templates. That would make sense for this weapon. However, it does not state it's a barrage weapon, just Ordinance D3. Does this mean you get D3 independent shots?


Yes. Have a look at the notes underneath the orbital relay table in the wargear entry on pg. 58 and the rules for multiple blasts on page 30 of the BRB.


[Edit] Or in other words ... what Komimissar Kel said


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