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In the fluff, how do Chaos Space Marine warbands treat gene seed? Among the loyalist Astartes, gene seed is very important, the connection to their past & their primarch, the foundation of their future. Are the Chaos Space Marines equally reverent? These warbands are made up from a variety of founding legions, drawing gene seed from different primarchs. I read an article describing the motivations of the warbands, among which was the collection of gene seed. This seems very odd; after all, how would they know what genetic material their apothecaries are injecting into the next generation of super soldiers?

Without geneseed your Legion dies. Geneseed isn't as easily to come by for the Traitors as it once was so they take what they can get.

Honsou of the Iron Warriors Geneseed is from the Imperial Fists.

They don't particularly care as long as they survive, although those with different geneseed from the founding chapter are generally looked down upon.

Renegade chapters are a fair bit different as warbands are a mish mash of all different chapters. Come to think of it Honsou's Iron Warriors warband included Raven Guard, Wolf Brothers and White Consuls.

I think i heard a story of when Alpha Legion destroyed one of the successor ultramarine chapters the geneseed was given to abaddons black legion as payment to replenish his forces

There is a story where the red corsairs launch a raid and swipe almost all of a chapter's geneseed. I know they think it is important, I just don't think they see it with the same reverance as the loyalist marines. Isn't Fabius Bile working on creating marines without the use of geneseed?

Geneseed is plentiful for the Chaos Astartes, every Legionnaire carries two Progenoid glands, just like any loyalist Chapter. The problems they have revolves around their tech level. They rarely have the facilities or the specialists to be able to create new Space Marines. Take Soul Hunter by Aron Dembski-Bowden. The Night Lords aboard the Covenant of Blood all have perfectly viable geneseed and progenoids, and Talos is able to extract their glands for storage. They cannot recruit more Astartes because they lack the technology and the expertise in order to grow new organs and have them safely transplanted into a host.

Bile is indeed trying to solve the geneseed problem.

From what I can tell, they tend to view it more as a commodity than anything else. Kind of like gasoline in a Mad Max movie. They know that they need the go juice, they just don't worship it like their 'uptight brothers.' In point of fact, Mad Max is a pretty good reference point for Chaos in general.

What's weird to me is that these warbands are madeup of various legions from the different primarchs. There must be problems.

Of course there's problems. But the problems that they have with Chaos gods mutating them into puddles of jelly, finding slaves to keep their equipment running, surviving their travels across the Warp without the Astronomican, and dodging the forces of the Imperium, as well as the problems with Tyranids, Orks, Tau, and various flavors of Eldar all outweight the problems they have with being from different genetic stock.

So when CSM's slaughter Imperial marines and steal their geneseeds, they aren't going to be too worried about them doing anything odd once implanted because they're gonna get corrupted by the stuff of chaos anyway. This method actually probably suits them. I'm assuming of course they also recycle their own geneseeds just like regular marines.

iproxtaco wrote:Geneseed is plentiful for the Chaos Astartes, every Legionnaire carries two Progenoid glands, just like any loyalist Chapter. The problems they have revolves around their tech level. They rarely have the facilities or the specialists to be able to create new Space Marines. Take Soul Hunter by Aron Dembski-Bowden. The Night Lords aboard the Covenant of Blood all have perfectly viable geneseed and progenoids, and Talos is able to extract their glands for storage. They cannot recruit more Astartes because they lack the technology and the expertise in order to grow new organs and have them safely transplanted into a host.

Plentiful?
doubt that.

Especially Talos of the Night Lords explains the problems pretty well. ( was an apothecary once ).
Traitors suffer from the warp. Tainted geneseed is rather unusable and creates drooling mutants instead of aspirants worthy of training.
The NL steal/buy also humans who are not corrupted, seems the basic material to create a space marine has to be as "untainted" ass possible for best efforts. Look up the Iron warriors take on demonic grown "space marines". Doesn't generate a steady flow of reinforcements.

The former Legions would have to replenish their ranks with UM, as thats the most common geneseed.
...sooner or later they become smurfyfied...

Geneseed does become more corrupt in the Chaos legions. He's right, although I would point out that the Night Lords still maintained a bank of geneseed. I assume that it gets corrupted faster when it's still in a Chaos Marine. Once it's out, their own screwed up issues can no longer psychically affect the stuff.

Plentiful was the incorrect word. It's available, and there's not really a need for it. It's the processing of it that causes the problems.

The astral claws had corpse takers to steel enemy geen seed as well as collect there own during the war


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The astral claws had corpse takers to steel enemy geen seed as well as collect there own during the war


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ARG messed up sorry