Assaulting units partially in cover

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**Sephyr**

During our last 2x2 game, an issue popped up that we couldn't quite solve.

Say a monstrous creature without assault grenades charges into a member of an enemy unit. Said member is not in terrain or any cover, but most of his unit is, giving them all a cover save agaisnt shooting attacks.

Does the MC attacks at initiative 1? It's not in terrain, and neither is its target, but the unit was when it first charged.

We ended up ruling that most of the unit was in cover, even after they piled in to defend, and resolved the CC at Ini 1 for the beast.

**Akroma06**

The MC has to charge the closest model in that unit. If doing that would require a difficult terrain test then yes I1. Otherwise he will go at his normal init.

**time wizard**

@Sephyr - The rule on assaulting through cover on page 36 spells it out.

If any model in the assaulting unit has to move through difficult or dangerous terrain for its assault move, then it takes the appropriate test and strikes at I1.

It doesn't matter how many of the enemy models are in cover, what matters is if the assaulters had to move through terrain.

In your scenario, the MC did not have to move through any terrain to get into base contact, so it would strike at normal initiative.

**Grakmar**

time wizard is correct. But, I'd like to highlight the fact that it is NOT cover that matters. It is difficult or dangerous terrain that matters.

If you're playing with something that grants cover, but isn't difficult/dangerous terrain, you can assault right through it and still strike at regular I. Also, units that ignore difficult terrain (like Eldar Pathfinders) would strike at regular I even if assaulting through difficult terrain.

**nosferatu1001**

ALL that matters is: did you take a difficult / dangerous terrain test

If you didnt, you dont strike at I1. If you did, you do.

NOTHING else matters

**Akroma06**

nosferatu1001 wrote:ALL that matters is: did you take a difficult / dangerous terrain test

If you didnt, you dont strike at I1. If you did, you do.

NOTHING else matters

As much as hate to say it...slow and purposeful will also make you strike at I1. Also I think I remember reading something about if the unit was already engaged before hand then a new charging unit would strike at initiative regardles of grenades or testing.

**time wizard**

Akroma06 wrote: Also I think I remember reading something about if the unit was already engaged before hand then a new charging unit would strike at initiative regardles of grenades or testing.

Correct, third paragraph of the same rule on page 36.

**nosferatu1001**

Akroma - that is because S&P makes you take a difficult terrain test when moving, regardless of where you're moving. Its's still the DT test that makes you strike at I1

**Akroma06**

Ok I never actually called it a difficult terrain test, but the effect is still the same.

**time wizard**

Akroma06 wrote:Ok I never actually called it a difficult terrain test, but the effect is still the same.

Right from the S&P rule, "...they always count as moving through difficult terrain (including in assaults).".

**nosferatu1001**

Akroma06 wrote:Ok I never actually called it a difficult terrain test, but the effect is still the same.

....because it IS a difficult terrain test. S&P isnt what makes you strike at I1, the fact you are made to take DT tests is the cause.

**Ascalam**

Bothers me not at all. Everyone in my army with S and P also has a Powerklaw, so they'll be hitting at I 1 anyway

**Akroma06**

Ok my point was that I never called it difficult just S & P. And this is all kinda off subject.