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2011/07/27 15:23:52
Subject: What were they using during the great crusade ?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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In all the fluff it says that the impirium needs the Emporer to guide the astronomica to giude starships around the galaxy. But what was the impirium before the Emporer was put on the golden throne ?
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2011/07/27 15:26:16
Subject: Re:What were they using during the great crusade ?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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The Emperor could keep the Astronomicon going on the run before he got all stabbed up by Horus.
After his epic life mugging he can't move about and do it...
He can't do much actually.
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2011/07/27 15:28:15
Subject: Re:What were they using during the great crusade ?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The Astronomicon was able to beam itself without The Emperor during most of The Crusade. I forget where, but somewhere there is a part that reveals that the Astronomicon is failing, and that The Emperor has to return to Terra to guide it himself, it's one of the reasons he had to accelerate his research in to the Webway.
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2011/07/27 15:33:41
Subject: Re:What were they using during the great crusade ?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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They still used the Astronomican. I'm not sure if taco or purple is right, but either way the Emperor did not orignally have to be plugged in to it. Either he ran it psychically at a distance, or it was running on its own, and started to fail later, necessitating his permanent control over it.
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2011/07/27 15:36:42
Subject: Re:What were they using during the great crusade ?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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I'm willing to go with Taco...
Sounds better.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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2011/07/27 17:29:57
Subject: Re:What were they using during the great crusade ?
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Fixture of Dakka
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The Astronomicon exists without the Emperor's influence in any capacity. It ran just fine without him before his internment, it runs just fine without him now. The only way they are linked is that they are both plugged into the same battery now.
The Emperor returned to earth to build the Golden Throne, it had nothing to do with Astronomicon.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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2011/07/27 17:37:01
Subject: Re:What were they using during the great crusade ?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wrong. The Emperor broadcasts the signal, without his power, the Astronomicon would be pointless.
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2011/07/27 18:11:56
Subject: Re:What were they using during the great crusade ?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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The Warp was also calmer during the Great Crusade(at the beginning anyway) and the Astronomican wasn't needed as much.
since the Heresy, the Warp has become turbulant again and the Astronomican has become massivly important.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2011/07/27 18:27:55
Subject: Re:What were they using during the great crusade ?
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Fixture of Dakka
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iproxtaco wrote:Wrong. The Emperor broadcasts the signal, without his power, the Astronomicon would be pointless.
Find a source for that objectively.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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2011/07/27 18:40:52
Subject: Re:What were they using during the great crusade ?
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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iproxtaco wrote: The Emperor focuses the signal, without his influence, the Astronomicon would be far weaker.
fixed it. 
Navigators were there before the IoM was founded.( DAoT). Great crusade fleets had them...
The astronomicon failed once and Malcador disturbed the Emperor in his research. He wasn't liking this interruption but the problems of the astronomican were a good reason to call him. So big E himself allowed Malcador to start the process of depleting psykers to run the astronomican, even when that meant their death.
The Emperor is needed to correct the settings and focus the beam, he isn't powering it himself. Thats what the psykers are good for.
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In dedicatio imperatum ultra articulo mortis.
H.B.M.C :
We were wrong. It's not the 40k End Times. It's the Trademarkening.
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2011/07/27 19:34:53
Subject: Re:What were they using during the great crusade ?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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DarknessEternal wrote:iproxtaco wrote:Wrong. The Emperor broadcasts the signal, without his power, the Astronomicon would be pointless.
Find a source for that objectively.
Every rulebook. It's always been a key tenant of why the Emperor is still important. He holds back the majority of Daemons from flooding the material realm and focuses the Astronomicon. Without him the Imperium would have failed long ago. Automatically Appended Next Post: 1hadhq wrote:iproxtaco wrote: The Emperor focuses the signal, without his influence, the Astronomicon would be far weaker.
fixed it. Navigators were there before the IoM was founded.( DAoT). Great crusade fleets had them... The astronomicon failed once and Malcador disturbed the Emperor in his research. He wasn't liking this interruption but the problems of the astronomican were a good reason to call him. So big E himself allowed Malcador to start the process of depleting psykers to run the astronomican, even when that meant their death. The Emperor is needed to correct the settings and focus the beam, he isn't powering it himself. Thats what the psykers are good for.
Never said he powers it, but you're right.
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2011/07/27 20:19:59
Subject: Re:What were they using during the great crusade ?
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Fixture of Dakka
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1hadhq wrote:
The Emperor is needed to correct the settings and focus the beam, he isn't powering it himself. Thats what the psykers are good for.
Yep, sounds like we all agree now.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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2011/08/04 11:36:53
Subject: What were they using during the great crusade ?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The Emperor was the most powerful Psyker in the known universe (except Tzeentch who was not well known). He most likely ran the Astronomican from whereever he was. I would not be the least bit surprised if he can still run it when his soul is finally free to roam the Warp.
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