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Busy somewhere, airin' out the skin jobs.

I'm getting really close to painting the "Grey Knight" portion of my GK army. (using lots of henchment and Coteaz as well)

I just saw this however on youtube....really fantastic.




Now, this is pretty much EXACTLY what I'd like the armour portions of my GK's to look like...rather than a simple brushed on or Drybrushed on chainmail or mithril.

Now, I don't own an airbrush...so I cannot really figure a way to do this. I'm not sure the desired effect would be as good using a brushed on Chainmail...and I dont want to invest in an airbrush at this time.

(anyone using this 'polishing' product w/o airbrushing let me know and tell me your thoughts)

The other thing I was thinking of doing was using Krylon sprays. I already use them to prime and Varnish so I know the quality is good.

Krylon offers a premium Metallic Spray in CHROME...which is exactly what I'd like my Grey Knight armour to look like. (you know, like the knights in Excalibur) However, I'm wondering how to do it correctly.

For Example, this weekend I plan on painting up 3 Rifleman Dreadnoughts. I'm wondering if I should simply paint them in the Premium Metallic...almost as a primer (it bonds to plastic). Then go over the non-armour parts like gun barrels, purity seal bits, and basica mechanical parts with a black paint sort of to "start over" and get those parts painted a little more realistically. You don't want the ENTIRE model to be chromed out...just the armour.

I'm wondering though if the acrylic paint will actually bond to the 'Chrome' layer so that I can do my detail work.

Anyway, any input or ideas along these lines will help. Please lemme know if you've done work like this and how you've gone about it.

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You want something like the one on the right?

or


This guy is doing a thread on his Grey knights, tells you how he paints them, i did a quick try and they turn out very similar.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/374017.page

Its cheating to use a Airbrush i think, unless your doing something big like a titan, getting a perfect coat with a brush on a mini is what you signed up to when going for a good paint job, using an airbrush takes some of the skill away, all GW models on their web site are painted with a brush and look great

Iv never liked Awesome paintjob after he made me screw up some space marines, not all my but when i just started out he could of said in his video he primed it white first, i had a bunch of space marines all with the paint done directly onto the plastic and the vid was for begginers and that something he should have said.

Edit: added extra pic

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There was a thread around where a guy was using some kind of spray chrome on a Dreadknight, but I can't find it. It looked really good.

Also an airbrush is not "cheating". It's simply a different tool.

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nectarprime wrote:
Also an airbrush is not "cheating". It's simply a different tool.


A tool that makes a good 3 hours painting only take 15 min, i see what you mean but i preffer to paint it manually has they did back in the good old day than sit there for 5 min getting the paints i want out and then spraying them on,
But then again i also like Black Sabbath, Rainbow and Dio, so maybe i live to much in the past
(Dio was in sabbath and Rainbow, not sure if Dio was in Dio )

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RogalDorn69 wrote:
nectarprime wrote:
Also an airbrush is not "cheating". It's simply a different tool.


A tool that makes a good 3 hours painting only take 15 min, i see what you mean but i preffer to paint it manually has they did back in the good old day than sit there for 5 min getting the paints i want out and then spraying them on,
But then again i also like Black Sabbath, Rainbow and Dio, so maybe i live to much in the past
(Dio was in sabbath and Rainbow, not sure if Dio was in Dio )


Airbrushing and brushes are used for different purposes.... it's not like an airbrush replaces everything. You should look into it a little bit more before you form an opinion on it.

And Dio was obviously in Dio......


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This might help you OP.... but it doesn't seem easy...
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/358715.page

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If you want a mirror finish, you'll have to airbrush.

If you want a high-chrome look but aren't so fussed about the reflection, looking to doing final highlights with Vallejo Model Air silver (it's very fine grain and flows nicely), and Vallejo Metallic Medium.

 
   
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RogalDorn69 wrote:all GW models on their web site are painted with a brush and look great


Sorry, you are mistaken. Many if not all of the tanks are painted at least in some way with the Citadel's spray gun. If you read their book "How to Paint Citadel Tanks", they use it all over the place even if they do not say it each time they do it, it is obvious they are. Granted it a sub-standard airbrush, by most accounts, but it is an airbrush none the less.
   
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Synchro wrote:
RogalDorn69 wrote:all GW models on their web site are painted with a brush and look great


Sorry, you are mistaken. Many if not all of the tanks are painted at least in some way with the Citadel's spray gun. If you read their book "How to Paint Citadel Tanks", they use it all over the place even if they do not say it each time they do it, it is obvious they are. Granted it a sub-standard airbrush, by most accounts, but it is an airbrush none the less.


I ment minis, can people stop complaining about airbrush's and my opinion, stay on topic and help out
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nectarprime wrote:

And Dio was obviously in Dio......


I know

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RogalDorn69 wrote:
Synchro wrote:
RogalDorn69 wrote:all GW models on their web site are painted with a brush and look great


Sorry, you are mistaken. Many if not all of the tanks are painted at least in some way with the Citadel's spray gun. If you read their book "How to Paint Citadel Tanks", they use it all over the place even if they do not say it each time they do it, it is obvious they are. Granted it a sub-standard airbrush, by most accounts, but it is an airbrush none the less.


I ment minis, can people stop complaining about airbrush's and my opinion, stay on topic and help out
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Tanks are miniatures also lol. This is on topic, OP asked about airbrushes, you were bashing them for no reason, others who actually know about them are defending them.

OP, check this out. The gold seen here is one layer of Vallejos Liquid Gold. I'm not sure of they make a chrome, but it looks really really good and can be applied by brush.


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They do not make a Chrome unfortunately. The closest they have in this line is the Silver or White Gold.

http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/gb/liquid-gold-gb.html

The only thing I have seen that gets that true mirror finish on plastic is All Clad but again you are back to an airbrush, sorry.
   
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synchro: do you know what all-clad gives the best silvery mirror finish? I'm thinking chrome for plastic?

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or there is a technique that lays down a really thin (one particle thick) layer of atomised aluminium that will give you models an actual mirror finish... only joking although the technique does exist ad works I'm sure the process costs way tooo much for anyone to concider using on mini's

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Grundz wrote:synchro: do you know what all-clad gives the best silvery mirror finish? I'm thinking chrome for plastic?


Sorry, i do not know the answer to that question. While they look amazing from the samples I have seen around the net, I am doing my best to avoid shooting lacquers in my airbrush. Plus I am new to airbrushing and the All-Clad stuff looks like it is above my skill level for the moment.

Another option is to try and find a local place that does plating using stuff like this http://www.platingsales.com/electroform.html and ask them if they ever have a run of plastic dipped chrome that you can tack your minis on to give you a buzz. I would go in to their shop if you can, not call. This kind of stuff takes personal attention, IMO. I have to imagine that it would be MUCH cheaper fior you to piggy back on a larger run of plating than to pay for them to do a special run just for your stuff.

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nectarprime wrote:

Tanks are miniatures also lol.

Not for me, because there not as mini as a mini

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RogalDorn69 wrote:
nectarprime wrote:

Tanks are miniatures also lol.

Not for me, because there not as mini as a mini


Whatever you say kid.

OP, here's some relevant info. This was done with "Krylon Original Chrome"

http://theleagueofheroes.yuku.com/topic/7494





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Also, this stuff looks amazing http://www.alsapaint.com/products/killerchrome.html

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