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I recently acquired a CSM army for very, very cheap(like 150$ for 3000 points NIB cheap) and want to make a list instead of just flipping it. Here is an attempt at Chaoszilla with what I've got, needing advice...

HQ

2x DP w/ Wings, MoS, Lash

ELITES

2x Dreadnaughts (Multi Melta or no?)

TROOPS

4x 5x CSM w/ Aspiring Champion w/ combimelta, Melta on squad, EDIT Rhinos too

FAST ATTACK

2x 5x Raptors w/ 2x Melta

HEAVY SUPPORT

3x Defiler(2x DCCW or one reaper auto cannon as well?)

1780 with no MM on Dreads


Raptors are there to pop transports without having to sac troops.

I was thinking of adding Multi melt as on the dreads and using the last 60 pts to upgrade a troop choice to 8x Zerkers in a Rhino.

I know nothing of Chaos and could use any advice, tho I am digging Chaoszilla for now.

No dreads period... i know its chaoszilla... but you got a 1 out of 6 chance to plast ur own stuff... trust me you only roll that when he is closest to something he can kill... :(

2 Last princes are good and all but I am finding have a Tzeench/Nurgly warptime prince in todays mech invirnment is a must... They do sooo much damage and if you charge the warptime prince in headfirst he will take the damage before the lash prince... Thus keeping lash going longer... You really only ever need one lash.

I also am finding using 10CSM in rhino with 2xMelta/Plasma and Icon of chaos glory is my favorite way to run them.. Yes Powerfists are nice but 40 more points they never doo much more then the reg attacks... If you get assaulted by an assault squad a powerfist wont save you... And CSM can outassault shooty squads just fine by themselfs... Or at least hold something till a Defiler or Prince can eat it.

I would always keep the Reaper Autocannon on the defilers... Its actually a better weapon to use vs rhinoes and such when no infantry in outa their taxi yet, also means one weapon destryoed and you can still shoot.... I always go autocannon and 1 extra DCCW

HQ

2x DP w/ Wings, MoS, Lash

ELITES

2x Dreadnaughts MM / HF

TROOPS

3x 5x CSM w/ Aspiring Champion w/ combimelta, Melta on squad, Rhino

8x Bezerkers in Rhino

FAST ATTACK

2x 5x Raptors w/ 2x Melta

HEAVY SUPPORT

3x Defiler(1x Reaper, 1 x DCCW)

1848
This is what I was thinking actually spelled out, I would love to fit a greater daemon in there tho...

Agreed on the Dreads. Ones make me cry. Your Dread will blow up something in your army on a side or rear shot(s)... still a Str 8 at 24", and Rhino isn't that tough at AV 11-10. If you insist on using them, run with two CCW. Either run them together or at least with a Rhino. Some say ML and just fire a frag if you have to shoot, but the ML krak option is kinda weak IMO.

I Disagree with the Lash Princes... A) you really have only 3 blast marker weapons, B) If your going to do only one, you may as well do none. Make them both Nurgle or Tzeentch. Redundancy in Chaos is key.

If your just going for 2 plasma/meltas, do Death Guard as they are better than CSMs. Key factor is they don't run, period. They can also take a beating. Run 6-7 PMs and your set... if you want a champ, PF is the way to go, but that is 40pts extra.

Raptors... not fearless, no Icon, small unit, expensive.. first thing that shoots at them and gets some kills will break them, even with a IoCG. If you were doing demon-bomb (giving your Raptors a Icon and using them to bring in summoned demons... lots of summoned demons), I would say keep them. But you have to ask if they are as effective as Chosen in this list. Chosen can infiltrate, have a Rhino (optional), and can have four melta guns. Give them a IoCG and they have a better base Ld than CSMs to maybe stay in the fight longer.

Alot of people keep the AC on the Defilers, alot don't. Those that keep them use them as a default weapon (back up really) for someone destroying the Battle cannon. Now they still have something to shoot. The others (non-AC) feel that they are moving up the Defiler every round and if they lose the BC, they might be close enough to get up in CC where they couldn't use the BC anyways. I personally lean towards the AC side in this list, as it isn't a balls to the wall assault list.

Chaos doesn't have terrible heavy options due to the Defiler. Base Pred with lascannon sponsons are popular, as are AC Havocs with IoCG, Vindicators, and of course the best option, Oblits.

If you got extra points, get combi-meltas on your Rhinos your assaulting with and Havoc launchers on the ones your camping with. The Havoc Launchers are not bad for anti-infantry weapons, as well as more blast markers for Lash if you insist on using it.

Good luck!

Its not really a ChaosZilla list.
For this, I'd include a GD and a third Dreadnought.
As troops I think that Daemons would fit.

Yea I think I'm gonna rework this to have a GD and three Dreads, nine bigthreats at 1850 is the best way to ensure it works I think. As for the dreads, I plan to pivot them so that my Rhinos are never in their LoS if they frenzy, as the rules clearly state they only frenzy at things in their LoS.


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Yea I think I'm gonna rework this to have a GD and three Dreads, nine bigthreats at 1850 is the best way to ensure it works I think. As for the dreads, I plan to pivot them so that my Rhinos are never in their LoS if they frenzy, as the rules clearly state they only frenzy at things in their LoS.