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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/30 03:26:53
Subject: IG 2011 Ard Boyz list
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Well my Guard is ready for Ard Boys, here goes.
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CCS Alpha 3 plasma guns, Regimental standard, Officer of the Fleet, and Astropath inside a Chimera
CCS Omega 4 melta guns
Elites
Guardsman Marbo
2 PBS with 6 psykers each both inside a Chimera
Fast Attack
3 Vendettas
Heavy support
1 Manticore
2 Leman Russ Demolishers
Troops
2 Melta vet squads with Demolition doctrine inside a Chimera
1 PCS with quad flamers inside a Chimera
3 Infantry squads with AC
2 AC HWS
1 SWS with demo charges
1 SWS with melta guns
The 2 HWS and 3 infantry squads are on foot.
The 2 SWS and CCS Omega ride in a Vendetta.
Everybody else is in a Chimera with the total # of Chimera=6
If circumstances dictate different squads can ride in the Vendetta, the most likely candidates being the PCS or Melta Vets.
Options for change are limited by models, if a model is not in my unused list it won't be available for ard boys.
Unused models are
1 plasma gun
2 Melta guns
1 Hydra *note however it's swapping a Hydra turret for a multi laser, including the Hydra will scrap 1 Chimera*
Enough power weapons to turn the infantry into a power blob
Right now it comes to 2495 points. Here are my options
Option #1: Keep it as is, give the PCS junior officer melta bombs.
Option #2: Scrap a Chimera and 15 more points somewhere to include the Hydra, but this will require the 2 Demolishers to go into a squadron. I'm not sold on this idea because I don't like the idea of a 320 point squad, shooting both cannons at the same target, and being wrecked on a 4.
Option #3: Scrap an infantry squad to turn the remaining 2 squads into a power blob.
Right now I'm thinking option #1, and am a little on the fence about option #3.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/07/30 03:28:21
Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb, but refuse. They cling to the realm, or love, or the gods…illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is, but they’ll never know this. Not until it’s too late.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/30 15:58:59
Subject: IG 2011 Ard Boyz list
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Witch Hunter in the Shadows
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If your limited by models it doesnt leave much room for improvement. I'll try to suggest a minimum of things you dont have.
Drop all of your flamers, your demo charges on the vets, your demo sws, your melta sws, and your ac sws. I imagine this is well over 300 points. With the points I'd definately consider blobbing your static element. Two of two squads each will still give you 4 ac's that wont die when something takes a piss in their direction. Either give your PCS good guns or use them as a speebump, in which case you can give their chimera to your CCS melta squad. There should be points left over. Don't spend it on junk. Still, to me this seems like a small 2500 point list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/31 06:34:09
Subject: IG 2011 Ard Boyz list
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Cutting 4 squads and 3 out of 6 chimera would create a completely different list, and it would be close to 500 points in cuts. That could buy a lot of powerblob, but I am not interested in running multiple blobs for a timed tournament. My list right now has mobile mewch elements, and static infantry. Mobile infantry is good, but it slows the game down too much, and the odds of a major victory/massacre are better when the game goes 5+ turns instead of 3 or 4. If the game ends on an early turn odds lean more towards a minor victory.
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Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb, but refuse. They cling to the realm, or love, or the gods…illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is, but they’ll never know this. Not until it’s too late.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/31 19:39:27
Subject: IG 2011 Ard Boyz list
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Thought about it some more...
Thinking of doing the following.
Dumping the tri melta sws for a quad melta pcs
Move 1 infantry squad into platoon #2
Dump 1 hws for a 4th infantry squad with an ac.
Add an ac to both vet squads.
And that puts me 5 points over budget.
Maybe I will downgrade 1 or both demolishers to a vanilla russ.
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Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb, but refuse. They cling to the realm, or love, or the gods…illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is, but they’ll never know this. Not until it’s too late.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/04 15:46:01
Subject: Re:IG 2011 Ard Boyz list
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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OK think I am settled down on my final list.
HQ
CCS Alpha 3 plasma guns, Regimental standard, Officer of the Fleet, and Astropath inside a Chimera
CCS Omega 3 melta guns and a regimental standard inside a Chimera
Elites
Guardsman Marbo
2 PBS with 6 psykers each both inside a Chimera
Fast Attack
3 Vendettas
Heavy support
1 Manticore
2 Leman Russ vanilla with HF
Troops
2 Vet squads with triple meltas, an AC, and Demolition doctrine inside a Chimera
1 PCS with quad flamers
1 PCS with quad meltas
4 Infantry squads with AC and a flamerl
1 AC HWS
1 SWS with demo charges
The 1 HWS and 4 infantry squads are the only units that are on foot, everybody else has an available transport.
The 2 PCS and 1 SWS ride in a Vendetta.
Everybody else is in a Chimera with the total # of Chimera=6 all with HF
KP=25 if squads combine
10 scoring units with room for 9 in transports
Long ranged firepower=manticore, 2 leman russ, 3 vendetta, 9 infantry based AC, 6 multilaser, and 2 PBS
Short ranged=13 meltas (most BS4) 3 plasma guns(bs4), 6 demo charges, 8 flamers, 9 heavy flamers, and flashlights
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/08/04 15:47:07
Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb, but refuse. They cling to the realm, or love, or the gods…illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is, but they’ll never know this. Not until it’s too late.
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