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2011/07/30 14:11:23
Subject: Wrecks Count as?
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Been Around the Block
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My Question is whether a wreck counts as area terrain or not. The rule came up, when my plasma gunners jumped on top of a downed vendetta to shoot over it. I was two inches back and my opponent declared he gets a cover save from my plasma gunners. It really only mattered because I was shooting 6 plasma shots into his bikers.
the rule book only defines wrecks as difficult and dangerous terrain, and his arguement is that with a clear border around the vendetta, it qualified as what was described as area terrain.
Any help?, and why?
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2011/07/30 15:02:45
Subject: Re:Wrecks Count as?
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Dakka Veteran
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Yes, wrecks are area terrain which are also difficult and dangerous.
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2011/07/30 22:24:38
Subject: Wrecks Count as?
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Making Stuff
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The rules do not count Wrecks as Area Terrain. Check page 62 of the rulebook... They are Difficult and Dangerous, but will simply be a big LOS-blocking lump of wreckage.
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2011/07/30 22:41:24
Subject: Wrecks Count as?
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Tilter at Windmills
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As Insaniak said. They are specifically defined as Difficult and Dangerous, but nothing says or implies that they're Area Terrain.
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2011/07/31 23:44:35
Subject: Re:Wrecks Count as?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Even though the rules never state it, I've never come across anybody who doesn't play wrecks as area terrain. Since terrain is agreed upon between the players before the game, this presents no problems.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
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2011/07/31 23:46:38
Subject: Wrecks Count as?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I've never played wrecks as area terrain; craters (explodes!) on the other hand is usually played as area, simply because expecting someone to bring lots of actual craters is a little much!
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2011/07/31 23:47:25
Subject: Wrecks Count as?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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nosferatu1001 wrote:I've never played wrecks as area terrain; craters (explodes!) on the other hand is usually played as area, simply because expecting someone to bring lots of actual craters is a little much!
It's all about the meta, I guess.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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2011/08/01 00:10:46
Subject: Re:Wrecks Count as?
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Making Stuff
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Lordhat wrote:Even though the rules never state it, I've never come across anybody who doesn't play wrecks as area terrain.
I suspect that's a result of the common misconception that difficult terrain is area terrain by default.
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2011/08/01 00:13:20
Subject: Re:Wrecks Count as?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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insaniak wrote:Lordhat wrote:Even though the rules never state it, I've never come across anybody who doesn't play wrecks as area terrain.
I suspect that's a result of the common misconception that difficult terrain is area terrain by default.
I agree heartily, as there is a huge preponderance in my meta to play every last piece of terrain on the board as area terrain. I find it more than a little bit annoying but if I want a game that's how it's played or I become TFG simply by pointing out the rules. However with wrecks, I can see it being played either way, without severely impacting the game.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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