Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

archmage (lore of life) (with the spears)
-lvl 4
-silver wand
-talisman of preservation

-korhil

noble
-BSB
-Armor of Caledor
-Guardian Pheonix
-GW

49* spearmen
-full command
-lichbone pennant

14* archers
-musician

30* lions
-full command
-ironcurse icon
-Banner of Eternal Fire

21* phoenix guard
-full command
-banner of sorcery

5* dragonprinces
-musician/SB
-banner of elyrion

eagle

eagle

eagle

I'd probs replace the Eagles for additional Dragon Princes, making for a more solid unit capable of withstanding a few casualties before their effectiveness is compromised. Seeing as you're taking larger units (larger units of HE FTW!) I'd take Lore of Shadow for your Archmage, and take Book of Hoeth (to do this you'd probably have to get rid of the archers, which, lets face it, isn't that big of a deal). Shadow is IMO the best Lore for High Elves, as every spell with the exception of Steed of Shadows is totally beneficial to them, removing nuences such as inability to wound with Spearmen, which with the help of Okkam's Mindrazor can have 51 Attacks with re-rolls to hit, all at S9! Seeing as you have extra points from getting rid of the Archers, I'd give the Noble with BSB Banner of the World Dragon and stick him with your White Lions (who don't need any Strength benefits from spells).

I'd probs replace the Eagles for additional Dragon Princes

Eagles are almost mandatory for any HE army. They're such a ubiquitous unit and have a whole plethora of uses, and are probably one of the best units we have access to. Never leave home without eagles, and at this points level, 2-3 eagles is great.

Avatar 720 wrote:

I'd probs replace the Eagles for additional Dragon Princes

Eagles are almost mandatory for any HE army. They're such a ubiquitous unit and have a whole plethora of uses, and are probably one of the best units we have access to. Never leave home without eagles, and at this points level, 2-3 eagles is great.

agreed. and every time I take lore of shadow, it backfires into oblivion

I'd split the spearmen into 2 units of 25 as it currently stands you have only a few units.

aerethan wrote:I'd split the spearmen into 2 units of 25 as it currently stands you have only a few units.

in rows of ten i get the horde rule along with my extra ranks for being HE

Which is fine, but it's still alot of points in 1 giant unit that just takes up space. Spearmen, even hoarded, aren't really killing machines.

Generalian said:
and every time I take lore of shadow, it backfires into oblivion

Thats from your experience; from mine an Archmage with Book of Hoeth dominates the field. How can they stop your units being S9, and theirs being really flaky, or weak? Even Chaos Warriors get massacred by Spearmen (-D3 WS, and I'm striking with Okkam's Mindrazor).

Guardian_Phoenix wrote:

Generalian said:
and every time I take lore of shadow, it backfires into oblivion

Thats from your experience; from mine an Archmage with Book of Hoeth dominates the field. How can they stop your units being S9, and theirs being really flaky, or weak? Even Chaos Warriors get massacred by Spearmen (-D3 WS, and I'm striking with Okkam's Mindrazor).

book is a massive waste of points... good players will know how to single out and destroy your one model in a flash. no armor save. no ward save.

also remember... your not going to get okrams razor every single game. while the other spells are nice. life really dominates.

+4 toughness? no miscast? str tests on whole units? regrowth? regen? its amazing and reliable.

if you want to do the occams trick, I take a level 1 mage, give him the seerstaff that lets him pick his spells instead of rolling, and essentially have him act as a razor delivery device wedged into my bus of spearmen. If I were to run horde spearmen, no way I'd do so without him. IIRC he's only about 120 points from your heroes allotment anyways.

book of hoeth is not used in my gaming group, it's considered too overpowered to be fair :O especially with lore of life.

I've had a lot of success mounting my wizards on cheap flying mounts (read: eagles) when I can use terrain and my own units to keep it safe. with more eagles flying around to run screens for your wizard and tying up enemy war machines, don't see why it couldn't work.