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Hello,

I'm a newcomer to Warhammer and have just invested in a 1500 point Blood angels army, this is what i went for:

HQ- Captain Tycho

Troops- Death company (8 man squad), Assault squad (10 man)

Elites- Terminators (10 man squad) 2 heavy flamers

Fast attack - 2 Baal Predators, Land speeder

Dedicated Transport- Rhino


This list is for fighting my 3 friends who have imperial guard, Eldar and ork lists. I have mainly gone for fighting orks but was wondering how this list would fair against imperial guard or Eldar?

To be honest it sucks, its very "all over the place" and doesn’t utilize the best that BA can offer, i mean it does some but that just a sneak peak.

Some of your stuff is ok, such as Baal (hope w-out sponsons) pred and speeder (MM/HF as they say, but in your case the Typhoon with HB would be best, as synergy with termies and long range support)

So assuming, that you decided to go mech, as most of your stuff is mech-ed, for that you want to get some Las-plas Razorbacks. IMO i would go with AC ones.

On the other hand, for such you might want to make smaller 5 man ASM squads to get that -35p discount more often (= more RZB's). Furthermore, you need a SP- Sang Priest (FNP source) as once your RZB's are popped you want your squad to live a bit longer, however you still need at least 4x5 man ASM(1 MG, pf or pw) to make RzB spam work's.

Ok you get this massive Termi unit, which is bit of waste, either convert some to TH/SS - LC ones. Or get rid of hvy flamers and replace them with 2xcyclones (2 krak/frag rockets + 2 SB shots >>> 1 template. Moreover might work with typhoon speeder, giving you total 6 frag/krak at 48" ). Combat squad they so you have 5 men with 2 cyclones and 5man with pf perhaps some Chain fists get a SP to them and rush, perhaps support them with tycho as well.


Lastly, get rid of the DC, as they are semi-good, but in this point level they are way too expensive.

Hope this helps,

BT

Thanks for the advice, also whats your opinion on the furioso dreadnought?

I love them; they are beasts in CC. AV 13, built in melta, tons of attacks. Imo they are very good ... For you they might work with DP.

OR Liberian dread as counter charge unit with WoS (wings) or Sword (S10) and SoS which is very important power in mech list as it gives 5+ cover save (reason why you should get one as you don’t have Liberian HQ) , however lot of peeps doesn’t like them in general.

With those models you have you should close your enemy as fast as possible. Rhino is for DC i presume? Drive it behind baals to enemy long range firepower and wreck them with the DC. 10 terminators should walk to mid field objectives in two groups of 5.

If tycho is DC version you cannot join him with other DC because he's not an IC. Ordinary Tycho can join the DC if you want. In a game keep your models close together so that you can max your killing power in one enemy asea at one time and overwhelm it quiqly. You have so low modelcount because of the large termie force that youl get eaten alive if you spread all over the board.


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Furioso is very good but very slow. if take one of them make sure it gets to the enemy abaut the same time as your other models. What you lack is long range firepower and/or speed for your army.

You dont want to have DC Tycho, as he gives the whole army his LD, which in a case is 8 (IIRC).

BloodTzar wrote:You dont want to have DC Tycho, as he gives the whole army his LD, which in a case is 8 (IIRC).

that was the normal tycho and he's LD10

It was all very good advice, i think the 10 man terminators are a waste of points, i should definately make changes. I think that cutting the 10 man squad to 5 to free some points might work out better for me, maybe go for 2 more 5 man assault squads with melta guns?

did you have a game?

Yeah but couldn't cope with the battlewagon and deathrolla and the looted wagon with boom gun made a good dent in my forces, if you had a 1500 point limit what would your essiential units be?

I'd go for jumpers army with 40 assaultmarines aided by sanguinary priests. other choise is to take a lot of 5 man assault squads with las/plas razorbacks. Baals go nicely with the last choise.

so do you think that the death company arent worth using in a 1500 point battle? Priests are really good i need to buy some.

I've been using 5 man DC in 1750 time to time with Storm raven transport and they have performed adequetly. The DC needs landraider or Raven as a ride becaese they have assault ramps and that way You have total control over them till firs close combat. And 21' threat rang is awesome. In tournamets they are too unreliable to use effectively.

Thank you for your advice when i next battle i will let you know how it went.

I wouldnt bother with the DC at such a point lvl, as for the points you might get much better, however in elite slots but still. Either go with dante and sang guard (troops get priest if you have points) or priest + lib + assault termies (lot of FC chargin LC's + some Str 9 hammers with rerolls) for a death star unit. Its much less random.

On the other hand, i woudnt ditch on the terms, as you can make a firebase out of them (regular terms you are using) 2 CML combat sq them add priest get some fun. But yeah A terms >> Regular ones, specially becouse of 3++

Hello fellow hampshiretonian =p

Have you got the jump packs for the death company? If so you could use them as 5 more assault marines and convert a couple into a librarian and 2 sanguinary priests with jump packs.

Terminators aren't too uber as they are quite slow.

Hello to you, hampshiretonian lol

I went without jump packs as its alot of points so i was going to put them anf tycho in a rhino to get them into the action quicker, my biggest problem with the terminators is getting them up the field quicker unless i deepstrike but i don't favour it. So i want to half the squad to free some more points for more assault marines. Priests look really good but i'm struggling to fit them into a 1500 point list, maybe drop the furioso and 1 of my baal preds?

Stormraven for the termies is legit (doens't have the 'cannot transport termies' rule AFAIK.