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So my local GW is doing an 800 point capaign running throughout the summer/ Battles occur every Saturday, and you can change your list for each week.
I want to employ the use of Drop Pods (3 or 4) for this weeks army, but do not own any and can't get even one for a month or so.
What I've done is taken my bucketload of sprue and constructed a basic frame of a Drop Pod-A pyramid, basically, the same shap, size and width as a Pod, 1 even has moving door things.

My question is this-Would this be allowed? I'm not quite sure if I'd be able to use them without a gamer/worker having a go at me, so I was wondering-
Is/Should this be allowed?
and
Would you allow it?

Thanks people!

GW will most likely not allow it. (I would know ) but thats a corporate policy.

me as a gamer in my own home, absolutely.

at your FLGS, I believe most people would as well.

GW will 100% not allow it, most tournaments will not allow it, many people will not enjoy playing against it. I'm sure your friends would understand if you just wanted to use them to playtest before deciding if you actually wanted to buy them, but as a permanent/alternative solution to actually buying pods? I don't think so.

Eh, I can foresee a few people getting anal over something like this.

It depends on who's running the store at the time, to be on the safe side I would write a list without the makeshift models and see what happens on the day when you turn up.

I probably wouldn't like it, but I wouldn't stop you from playing.

Then again, I don't have much experience regarding official/tournament play.

!@##$ GW.

They want you to pay 50.00 for the same thing. Guess its some sort of status symble, or something, but this is the same compnay that had plans in WHITE FRIGGIN DWARF of the very same things.


Tanks, Bunkers, Tents, towers, wall sections...

You might try this instead.... then tell them to suck it.

http://santacruzwarhammer.blogspot.com/2007/11/low-buck-drop-pods-that-dont-suck.html

What happened to the "Hobby" of the hobby?

I would have no problem since they are of approximate size...I played a game against a guy who used foam cut into the horizontal profile of a drop pod...he ran alot of them and wrote on them what they were equipped with so I guess I don't care that much and just enjoy playing.

DrownedRat117 wrote:I want to employ the use of Drop Pods (3 or 4) for this weeks army, but do not own any and can't get even one for a month or so...constructed a basic frame of a Drop Pod-A pyramid, basically, the same shap, size and width as a Pod

Playing proxy models IN a store that sells the things IN their event is pretty bad taste. Buy one from them.

My question is this-Would this be allowed?

No idea, probably ask the event holder?.

I'm not quite sure if I'd be able to use them without a gamer/worker having a go at me,

I'd have a go at you.

Is/Should this be allowed?

No.

Would you allow it?

Maybe in a friendly game, with a chiding, (I would lend you as many as you need). In an event, I wouldn't allow proxies, if I were running it, WYSIWYG.

Akroma06 wrote:I would have no problem since they are of approximate size...I played a game against a guy who used foam cut into the horizontal profile of a drop pod...he ran alot of them and wrote on them what they were equipped with so I guess I don't care that much and just enjoy playing.

I mean, if I made one out of foam core and detailed it to be near identical, who would know? and if they did would you care?

I certainly would not.

GW IS GW, they are a company out to sell a product. you HAVE to keep that in mind. they make their rules to sell you things. its not evil, its business. its part of the cycle.

playing in a GW store, while free, you understand the policies in place, and you adhere to them. most LGS have rules imposed as well, some gaming centers even require memberships. no big deal.

Grot 6 wrote:!@##$ GW.

this is the same compnay that had plans in WHITE FRIGGIN DWARF of the very same things.

What happened to the "Hobby" of the hobby?

From what i can gather your only allowed to scratch build things that dont have a model for them. Its pretty sad, but that seems to be the GW and GW fanboy opinion.

That sort of bodging, for a game or two is fine. But as a permanent alternative, hell no! It's just cheap. At least make them out of card.

Phone the store and ask would be my first move.
If you are intending on buying make it clear to them.
Back up by making an alternative list as someone mentioned.

Personally I wouldn't mind, and if it was for a game or two to test drive before committing to spend a lot of cash SHOULD be fine imho. But prolly isn't

Grot 6 wrote:!@##$ GW.

They want you to pay 50.00 for the same thing. Guess its some sort of status symble, or something, but this is the same compnay that had plans in WHITE FRIGGIN DWARF of the very same things.


Tanks, Bunkers, Tents, towers, wall sections...

You might try this instead.... then tell them to suck it.

http://santacruzwarhammer.blogspot.com/2007/11/low-buck-drop-pods-that-dont-suck.html

What happened to the "Hobby" of the hobby?

Calm down petal. He's asking specifically about an instore session. If playing anywhere but you're own house, you kind of have to obey the rules. And not just in gaming. I swear like a trooper, yet when in polite company, I know that this is not acceptable, so I moderate my language. Not your place? Other persons rules. Your place? Do what you like and to hell with everyone else!

Why exactly would they have a problem with a scratch built model made from presumably GW materials?

If you are attending any kind of tournament/event, GW sponsored or not, try and have the proper models. If everyone else can make the effort and expense to purchase the correct models, common gamer courtesy would say that you should at least do the same.

I think your makeshift models should look good. Make a decent effort and have something that looks the part. Because if it just looks like a load of bits of sprue stuck together then that's reason enough to have it refused for an event.

Perhaps you should put up a picture and show us what your substitute looks like?

Are you one of my friends? Then yes to try something out.

Are you Little Billy Donkey that I don't know or care about? No, get that garbage out of here, buy the models or get a different hobby.

Worglock wrote:Are you one of my friends? Then yes to try something out.

Are you Little Billy Donkey that I don't know or care about? No, get that garbage out of here, buy the models or get a different hobby.

It started so well Worglock. The first part is socially acceptable.
The second part crudely scratched together out of bits of old bile and unpleasantness ought not to be brought to the table.

But 50% good manners is an improvement.
Keep working at it and even though we may disagree with your opinion, we may actually come to respect it.

It depends.

If my opponent wants to try something out to determine its effectiveness, sure.

If he's still using his hodgepodge proxy six or seven weeks later, well, then I might take exception.

So once or twice might be OK, but you should eventually have a real model, whether you've bought it or made a dynamite scratch-build.

if its made out of spru, that it is 50% gw made therefor should technically be legal should it not?

clidefr0g wrote:if its made out of spru, that it is 50% gw made therefor should technically be legal should it not?

no

As much as it pains me to agree with Worglock, he is correct.

While being made out of sprue might technically be following the letter of the law (IE, it contains no non-GW items), it definitely violates the spirit.

At a store or event, absolutely not.

For friendlies, I'd tease you about it, and the teasing would increase the longer you used them for. Either scratch build some GOOD ones, or buy the GW ones.

I'm seeing all these posts about "Jusy buy 3 or 4 drop pods and stop whining", which is saying, basically, that I should pull around 80-90 pounds out of the air suddenly and buy them!



I do plan on buying them in time if I enjoy fielding them, hence my wanting to do this, and unfortunately I do not share everyones fantastic modelling skills, ideas, or supplies.

I would definitely proxy in a few games to see if I enjoyed using them before splashing out and building if I were you.

Ebay might be worth a visit.
Drop pods aren't too easy to stick together. If you decide to go for some ready built second hand could be a solution

To try them, yes

Permanently, not anywhere except in a gaming club or in my home.

And I don't think that's a fanboy opinion, I think it's a general sense opinion.

The argument of "they're £20 each" is pretty silly in terms of a hobby where we all buy little plastic soldiers and fight each other. The fact is a drop pod allows you a tactical advantage in certain situations but in game they do very little other than sit there.

If you take issue with that, use the points on something more flexible and get more bang for your buck.

Not a direct shot at you OP, it just annoys me when people whine about the hobby mercilessly. Imagine if GW had an anything goes on our table approach? The hobby would be poorer for it.

Drop pods are the one thing I'd be fine with if thrown together from bits.
It just sits on the table, is a fairly big intricate model, and is expensive for what it is.

But, that's me, and I prefer scratch-built vehicles to GW, if fluff and size/shape are close enough.

I have zero problem someone has some of the scratch built drop pods from the above link, as it is almost the identical size representation and truly looks the part. I equate this to Ork Battlewagon. YES there is a kit, however we have all seen those awe inspiring Battlewagons that some Ork players rock out with. The SM drop pod is an example where the SM player can get creative and it will not overtly affect how the game turns out.

However, using something that's pyramid shaped? Not at a tournment. But if your at my house / basement go for it. Reasoning is true line of sight is affected greatly by a model that is not similar stature to the original model. Many TO's will see this well ahead of time and veto things. I dislike when people show up with Gator bottle drop pods, or paint cans at a tournment. It bother me immensely as my army is fully painted and represents what it is, I don't have options to skimp, why should you?

A scratch built model that is almost similar structure shows a few things: fore thought, know how, effort, and respect. That i'm ok with. But paint cans, models which are not even close to the original, i'm sorry, not a fan. Again 1 off game / gaming at a buddies, no problem. Tournment = problem.

If you were one of my RL friends and wanted to test them out, I wouldn't care. I'm more happy to actually get a game.

Otherwise, I'd have to see it. I don't mind reasonable proxies, but this might be on the low end of reasonable, depending - I don't want to fight soda-can carnifexes, nickel marines, or shoebox monoliths.

Skinnereal had a good point about more leeway for drop pods then maybe other models

In my gaming group,I have used cottage cheese containers for drop pods.Later i added some foam core not to shabby for a few time uses.

I call for a picture of this sprue-pod.

As everyone else says, it won't fly with GW. As for me, I'm all about "rule of cool". If it looks cool, I'll be happy to play with it. If it doesn't, I'll probably play anyway, but there may be hints dropped on how to make it cooler or replace it.