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Longtime Dakkanaut





Eldar Dire Avenger gain the ability Bladestorm that reads
"Exarch and his squad may choose to add one to the number of shots they each fire with their shuriken weapons that turn."

We also know that it says "(Counting as a Single Assault 4 Avenger Shuriken Catapult)"

So the (mostly) clear RAW is that Assault 4 becomes Assault 5

However I venture to argue that since it saids you have 2 Shuriken Catapults, you "add one to the number of shots they each fire with their shuriken weapons that turn" - Aka you add 2 shots


The reason the extra comment in the parentheses was added was for the main rule book that states infantry may only fire a single weapon, thus having 2 weapons would effectively do nothing
Then you can argue that they could have given him a special rule that allowed him to fire 2 weapons per turn, but the relative effectiveness of firing 1 weapon with assault 4 vs 2 weapons with assault 2 is significant (83% accuracy vs 69% accuracy)


6+ = 6/36 | Reroll 1s = 7/36 | Reroll Misses = 11/36 ||||||| 5+ = 12/36 | Reroll 1s 14/36 | Reroll Misses = 20/36 ||||||| 4+ = 18/36 | Reroll 1s 21/36 | Reroll Misses = 27/36
3+ = 24/36 | Reroll 1s 28/36 | Reroll Misses = 32/36 ||||||| 2+ = 30/36 | Reroll 1s 35/36 ||||||| Highest of 2d6 = 4.47
 
   
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You're digging for Easter Eggs.

You add one to the number of shots he fires, not add one to each weapon he fires.

He had 4 shots. He adds 1.

 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





I do not understand the term "digging for Easter Eggs."


6+ = 6/36 | Reroll 1s = 7/36 | Reroll Misses = 11/36 ||||||| 5+ = 12/36 | Reroll 1s 14/36 | Reroll Misses = 20/36 ||||||| 4+ = 18/36 | Reroll 1s 21/36 | Reroll Misses = 27/36
3+ = 24/36 | Reroll 1s 28/36 | Reroll Misses = 32/36 ||||||| 2+ = 30/36 | Reroll 1s 35/36 ||||||| Highest of 2d6 = 4.47
 
   
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It is a way of saying that there isn't any "hidden" bonuses written into the rules.

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insaniak wrote:You're digging for Easter Eggs.

You add one to the number of shots he fires, not add one to each weapon he fires.

He had 4 shots. He adds 1.


^This.

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Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is
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IF you are playing that he is armed with 2 catapults then I will let you add 1 shot to each.
This means you have 2 assault 3 weapons - of which you can only fire 1, as infantry can only fire one weapon (usually)
   
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nosferatu1001 wrote:IF you are playing that he is armed with 2 catapults then I will let you add 1 shot to each.
This means you have 2 assault 3 weapons - of which you can only fire 1, as infantry can only fire one weapon (usually)


Who would ever play it like that though?
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




That was my point.

You can attempt to claim 2 catapults to get 2 extra shots, but then im only letting you fire 1 weapon. It's essentially "dont be an idiot", but with rules backing
   
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Tilter at Windmills






Manchester, NH

A model can only fire one gun unless it has a special rule stating otherwise. The Dire Avenger Exarch rules, rather than allowing him to fire two, make the pair count as a "single" weapon.

If they count as a single weapon, they clearly only get one extra shot.

Actually, even if it counted as two, I think he'd still only get one extra, as the power says the squad members "each" fire one extra shot with their shuriken weappns. So it's one extra shot per model, not per weapon.

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