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If you have a single model in a unit inside area terrain and the unit is being shot at, does the entire unit gets the cover save?

If so ,is there a page or FAQ I can point to?

I only see the reference 'inside area terrain' on p. 22 of the BRB which uses the term 'models' and 'partially'.

The cover rules state that if half or more of the models in a unit are in cover, the unit qualifies for a cover save. The area terrain rules are just part of the cover rules.

That's correct for normal cover, but it also lists area terrain as an exception to the normal cover rules. The wording is vague too..'target models' (plural) with 'bases partially inside area terrain are in cover'. Partially does not necessarily mean 50%. Partially could mean one model out of ten in a unit.

I heard this on a podcast a while back and am trying to determine legality...seems good for orks, nids or hordes armys.

Also, as a parallel, if a single model is in area terrain and the entire unit wants to move, the entire unit has to take an difficult terrain test.

I think you're misunderstanding the area terrain exception. "Target models whose bases are at least partially inside area terrain are in cover,.." So any model with even the tiniest part of its base in area terrain counts as in cover.

Then if 50% or more of the models are in cover, the unit is in cover.

jb50c wrote:Also, as a parallel, if a single model is in area terrain and the entire unit wants to move, the entire unit has to take an difficult terrain test.

This is 100% correct, if you have one model touching difficult terrain, you need to take a test with that unit to see how far it will move.

So does this mean you think it provides cover as well?

No, moving through terrain and claiming cover are not related. Every model in a unit must move at the speed of the slowest model, so a single one in terrain is enough to slow them down. In order for a model to be able to take a cover save 50% of the total models in the unit must be in cover.

Jidmah wrote: In order for a model to be able to take a cover save 50% of the total models in the unit must be in cover.

Actually it would be, in order for a unit to be able to take a cover save, 50% or more of the total models in the unit must be in cover.

jb50c wrote:That's correct for normal cover, but it also lists area terrain as an exception to the normal cover rules.

You're misunderstanding the rules. Area Terrain is an exception only in the ways it explicitly differs from the regular cover rules. Since no exception is given regarding how many models must be in cover, that remains the same.

jb50c wrote:The wording is vague too..'target models' (plural) with 'bases partially inside area terrain are in cover'. Partially does not necessarily mean 50%..

No, there's nothing vague there at all. If a given model's base is even partially in terrain, THAT model counts as being in cover. Simply count how many models are in cover, and compare it to the total number of models in the unit. Then refer back to the rest of the cover rules where they tell you that half or more of the models have to be in cover for the unit to get a cover save.

jb50c wrote:I heard this on a podcast a while back and am trying to determine legality...seems good for orks, nids or hordes armys.

Maybe you misunderstood, and they were talking about a particular piece of wargear or unit special rule? There are several items like this which give any unit within 6" of the model a cover save, even if only one member of the unit is within range. Ork Kustom Force Field, Tyranids Venomthropes, Blood Angels' Shield of Sanguinius psychic power and Space Wolves' Storm Caller all work like that.

jb50c wrote:Also, as a parallel, if a single model is in area terrain and the entire unit wants to move, the entire unit has to take an difficult terrain test.

Different rule. Movement and cover work differently.

time wizard wrote:

Jidmah wrote: In order for a model to be able to take a cover save 50% of the total models in the unit must be in cover.

Actually it would be, in order for a unit to be able to take a cover save, 50% or more of the total models in the unit must be in cover.

A model can take any cover save the unit has.

Yes Jidmah, we are both saying the same thing.
I thought it less confusing to say the unit gets the cover save.

A model in clear terrain, that is part of a unit that has 50% or more of its models in cover gets a cover save, true, because the unit gets a cover save.

Okay. I must have misheard or misunderstood. Thanks for the help everybody.

Sometimes it can be easy to miss when they're talking about Units or Models. Thanks for having a good attitude.