b1soul wrote:a lone space marine is stalked by a predator in the empty ruins of a 40k city (think an empty Armageddon) 
 
 the predator is from the Predator/AvP expanded universe (i.e. novels, comics, and video games) 
 in other words, he's much better than the movie predators (sort of like the difference between marines from the recent Ultramarines movie and marines from Black Library novels) 
 
 - the predator is an elite veteran hunter (around 500 years experience) 
 
 - the marine is a veteran assault squad sergeant (from your favourite SM chapter) 
 
 predator physical stats
 height: 8'2" or 2.5m (see novel AvP Prey) 
 weight: ~500lbs 
 
 predator equipment
 dual shoulder cannons, smart disc, pole-arm, proximity mines, dual wrist blades
 near-invisibility, multiple vision modes, amplified hearing
 
 marine physical stats
 height: 8'0" (tends to vary depending on the authour) 
 weight: I'm guessing around 1000lbs in power armour 
 
 marine equipment 
 chainsword, bolt pistol, frag grenades, combat blade 
 power armour 
 
 who wins? 
 please try to cite sources in your argument when claiming specific feats 
 
 
   
   
   
 
 
 Is this a joke, really?
 Predator is so much overpowered. Like putting a Grey Knight Terminator against Tau Fire Warrior.
 I will not use any source because this is obvious. On range Marine has no chance ( I mean dual shoulder cannons, really? That's two plasma hits and one hit is 6000+ C [plasma standard temperature]). Marine only chance is to get into melee combat ( but chance for that in low since Predator have smart disc witch can track the marine down + the shoulder cannons can track a marine by heat signature [not if marine is veering a helmet but who knows - maybe they have some vision to see marine armor liek they see our heat]). And even in melee it will be thought fight ( 500 years of experience for Predator ), and Predator has dual wrist blades while Marine has 1 Chainsword and 1 blade - real equal ( it would be if Marine have 2x power claws ). All in all - chances are 75% for Predator  - 25% for Space Marine.
 
 Another Imperial hate thread.... 
