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If a Grand Master & a unit of Purifiers are on a second round of combat with Hive Guard, and a fresh unit (Swarm Lord) charges, is he effected by the Psychotroke & Rad Grenades?

The grenades read, if a unit assaults, or is assaulted, they are effected. Is my Grand Master too tied up with the current assault to ues these grenades on the new units?

Thanks

BTW, Swarm Lord beat the tar outta my Grand Mastery...sigh.

If the Grand Master is contacted by the Swarm Lord, he would seem to qualify for the "is assaulted" part.

I agree, but are these grenades considered Assault and/or Defensive grenades? It's not worded this way, and I hate to be a 'Word Bearers Lawyer.'

The wording seems to support Steel's point. Plus, they aren't considered to be "universal" grenades (Assault or Defensive) so there's nothing that says they would have to follow the restrictions associated with those grenades.

I agree. They are neither.

They are "special" grenades with their own parameters and effects, not comparable to Defensive and Assault Grenades.

Cool, next time I'll get that durty git (Swarm Lord).

I believe due to the new FAQ that even if the Grand Master doesn't end up in base contact with the Swarm Lord the grenades still affect him. Per the FAQ as long as someone in the unit is holding these grenades the whole unit benefits from them.

Q: Does the entire unit need to be equipped with rad,
psyk-out and/or psychotroke grenades for their effects
to work or is just one model being equiped with them
enough? (p60)
A: One model in a unit is enough.

The grenades come into effect anytime a unit with one or more grenade armed models assaults or is assaulted

Note that the grenade effects only apply to the unit that charged in this case. The unit already fighting is unaffected this round

I see no reason as to why the grenades wouldn't go off as there are no restrictions besides the unit being assualted.

Rad and psychotroke arent defensive grenades. They are their own type.

Great, thanks everyone...now if I can just remember all of these rulz during the Ard Boyz...

Grenades should trigger every time a new unit is assaulting you or when you are assaulting a new unit.