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Here's my potential list (with max points, if I did the math properly)

CCS, LC, Banner, astropath
5x stormtroopers, melta x2
2x Melta vets in chimera
melta vets
Penal Legion
PCS w/ flamer x4
4x Infantry squad with meltas, autocannons, pwoer weapons, 1x commissar w/ power weapon

Valyrie
Vendetta
Manticore
Hydra x3

I guess that's a pretty varied list, but it's still nasty.

nkelsch wrote:Every year it is the same thing... A bunch of people with no intention of attending the event angry up the forum because they can't stand someone somewhere plays the game in a way they don't like. If the people attending enjoy the format, good for them? There is plenty of room for different formats. If you don't like Comp... don't participate? live and let live?

And every year, it's the same thing. People that don't read posts get made because they can't understand that someone would explain why they won't attend an event.

Live and let live, indeed.

I think that it's a great event for people that enjoy semi-competitive games, have large collections, and can get into the spirit.

That said, I'm going to make serious effort to get there.

nkelsch wrote:
I think the thread could do without people saying "yes, you are not playing real 40k... but if you enjoy not playing 40k, then good luck!" and similar backhanded unhelpful insults and comentary on COMP in general. Just like last year and the year before...

True. Of course, holding posts to the standard of "could the thread do without this" isn't the most practical.

And not every person reading this thread read the ones prior. It's not utterly out of line to point out to new readers that there is a very demanding comp requirement. It could be done with mroe tact than some people have, but it's still worth pointing out.

As for the actuall comment of "real 40k," well, yeah, it's harsh, but it's at least defensible.

I know why people won't attend... And I don't have any issue with it... what I can't understand is how come people can't keep it to themselves and have a driven urge to tear down comp events in these forums, especially for events they never had any intention in ever participating in.

Ok, this thread is essnetially an advertisment, or inducement, to attend an event. People are saying why they won't attend, and maybe the organizers will alter their way of running things to accomodate.

Oh, I figured. I was just giving examples of why people might give their opinions when at least one person seems to not want to read them.

I have my thoughts on the rubric, but I figure it'll be fun, and it's in driving distance.

BTW, what is the hotel situation?

HarveyDent wrote:the comp system for this event takes the game back to the stone age of competition.

all it does is make players try to find new loopholes in a new poopy system.

yeah, i said that. your system is doggy doo.

If you look at it from the perspective of giving people new challenges to create a ballbuster list, isn't that more fun, fair, and upfront than "stealth comp" hidden in missions?

I think the worst downside you can argue to this is that it hurts older, weaker armies. It does create some interesting new possibilities.

Hulksmash wrote:If it was in driving distance I'd be there regardless of the format simply because I hear they put on a good event. That and I'm lucky enough to have large enough armies to attempt to break the system. Granted I'd have to play MEQ as Daemons and Nids won't do well at all in this kind of set-up.

Yeah, there are some legitimate crticisms to be made about this format: it punishes older books, and books that rely on mech, far more than newer, more varied books.

And, I hate to agree with Yak on general principle, but some of criticisms are (or make no effort not to look like) pretty condescending. I had a frat brother that would rail about how stupid the vegan restaurant near us was, seemingly ignoring the near constant 15-minute wait for a table.

The problem I see with DE is that they're virtually all mech. I don't know enough about them to know if they can take decent foot sloggiers.

I guess I don't care if you want to call it Circle-Jerk 40,000... it looks like it'll be fun to me, and apparently enough other people to make it a thing.

Since not even the rulebook defines "real" 40k to be mean restricted to the rulebook, at some point definitions of "real", like nearly all defintinions of reality, simply turn into "the way I see it."

So, yes. This is not 40k "the way you percieve it."

But reality is far more complex than you realize.

We've all missed one of the greatest examples in sports composition:

The National League bans the Designated Hitter because it's OP!

Actually, the USGA does regulate the number of clubs a player can carry. They also don't' allow hybrid clubs.

And the PGA doesn't allow carts...

So, yes. In many ways it's like golf.


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The Canadian Football League still maintains a rule that 50% of a team's roster must be Canadian born or trained. Before you mock the CFL, keep in mind that it's average attendance per game is only slightly less than Major League Baseball.






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NASCAR has more restrictions on how to make the car go faster than any other rule.


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I guess I'd say that high levels of competition often come with restrictions on what you can use, which players you can field, etc.