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I've recently decided to play some Warhammer 40K, it seems to always have other players to play against. I looked long and hard at the different armies and I really like the Death Korps of Krieg. My question is this, is that a bad choice for a new player? I don't know anything really about GW or Forgeworld but I looked at the rules for a monthly tourney at a local game store and it specifically states no Forgeworld. Is that common? Am I going to have trouble finding games with this army? I figure I can probably find casual games but if I want to get in on a tournament somewhere I don't want to be continually hosed. Thanks for any and all responses.

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The death korps of Kreig look really cool, but that army is going to get really expensive really fast. If you want an affordable army I would recomend the space marines. In the starter set you get 10 tacticals, 5 termies, a deadnaught, a captain, and a lot of orks. The peices for the space marines alone would cost about $150 alone. and you get the rulebook, which costs $50 by itself. The orks in the set are a load of fun to play too.

If you play your Death Korps with the standard Imperial Guard codex, that's just fine for most tournaments. The forgeworld ban tends to extend primarily to their rulesets and models that don't represent something in a base GW codex. Casual games will vary largely by region but most shouldn't have an issue with DKoK.

However, if you want to actually have the FW DKoK, they're a very expensive set of models that are difficult to work with, as they are made of resin, so I really wouldn't recommend them for a player new to miniatures hobby.

Marines are the most common new player choice, partly due to aesthetics, partly due to the low model count and simplicity of painting, and of course, they are readily available at bargain prices. The figures in the Assault on Black Reach set are simple pushfit figures, not the same as a boxed set, so their value is intrinsically lower on that count alone, but the box is still an excellent starter deal.

GreyHamster wrote:If you play your Death Korps with the standard Imperial Guard codex, that's just fine for most tournaments. The forgeworld ban tends to extend primarily to their rulesets and models that don't represent something in a base GW codex. Casual games will vary largely by region but most shouldn't have an issue with DKoK.

However, if you want to actually have the FW DKoK, they're a very expensive set of models that are difficult to work with, as they are made of resin, so I really wouldn't recommend them for a player new to miniatures hobby.

Marines are the most common new player choice, partly due to aesthetics, partly due to the low model count and simplicity of painting, and of course, they are readily available at bargain prices. The figures in the Assault on Black Reach set are simple pushfit figures, not the same as a boxed set, so their value is intrinsically lower on that count alone, but the box is still an excellent starter deal.

Oh, okay I think I get it. I can use the DKok (I just learned that, thanks) figures to represent figures in the IG codex? As far as dealing with minis, I think I'll be okay, maybe. I've played quite a few games requiring minis. 99% of everything I've ever worked with was metal, it will be nice to put the pin vise away and just glue for a while.

Crunchysock wrote:
Oh, okay I think I get it. I can use the DKok (I just learned that, thanks) figures to represent figures in the IG codex? As far as dealing with minis, I think I'll be okay, maybe. I've played quite a few games requiring minis. 99% of everything I've ever worked with was metal, it will be nice to put the pin vise away and just glue for a while.

The Death Korps of Krieg are just a special regiment of the Imperial Guard - they can be represented with the IG codex just fine, or with their own rulebooks from Forgeworld. Not everyone is okay with Forgeworld rules and most tourneys won't allow them, but regular GW codices will be good anywhere. I wouldn't recommend starting with Death Korps, at least not until you've played a game or two just to make sure you like the game! For reference, an average game is 1500 points, while 10 guardsmen will be around 50-70 points depending on heavy weapons and stuff. If you've got the income to do Death Korps, then go ahead.

DKoK are actually Imperial Guards, not just counts-as. They're a particular group of regiments of Guard, they just haven't gotten plastic figures representing their idiosyncratic dress the way Cadians and Catachans have. Their popularity and lack of plastics is why FW has such a diverse resin line. I believe some of the DKoK tanks in the FW line happen to have special FW rules as well, but if you don't use those and just play what's in the codex, the rules are completely legal. And quite competitive, 5e Guard is considered very much a top tier army if you can afford the mass of tanks and veterans.

Working with FW resin is somewhat unlike metal, it's got a ton of cleaning that needs to be done, and the material is very brittle. But these days FW has a guide on it on their site.

Thanks for answers everyone. I'm definately going to pick a couple figures up just because I want to paint them. Knowing I can use them most anywhere is good. I plan on looking in on some games this Friday, I've seen the game played a lot but never really bothered learning or understanding the rules. I guess I'll see how it goes.

If you are going with IG, cool, go with it. Look around your local craigslist, put a note on your local game store bulletin board, ask other players at the shop. Just get the word out there you are looking for IG to get started, and you can find some deals.