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2019/03/20 08:01:38
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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DeathKorp_Rider wrote:On that note, I had a question of the rules. The PDF says Disciple Squads only have the option of buying a Command-Vox. Do they just not have access to a normal Vox?
No disciples ( regular ones) should only be able to buy a vox.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/03/20 12:14:58
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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Oh okay, then it was just a typo
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2019/03/20 12:28:44
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Yep
Btw, how were your results so far.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/03/20 12:39:49
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/03/20 14:22:26
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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Haven't played with my army yet, but I should at least be able to run a game within the next week or two. Mostly came down to not having enough models but I should have sufficient coverage now. Certainly not optimized to what I like, but playable.
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2019/03/20 15:35:52
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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PDF? Is this a question about a supplement?
Index Forces of the Astra Militarum says, on page 88, third bullet in 'Wargear Options', that "[o]ne other Disciple may carry a vox-caster."
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2019/03/20 16:05:39
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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We were talking about our fan-made codex
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2019/03/20 17:21:02
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Oh. My bad.
Bung us a copy?
Not Online!!! has my email.
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2019/03/20 17:35:20
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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It's listed under the OP I think
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2019/03/20 17:36:27
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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I'll give you a link!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mcc4vkayr2s9h2y/Renegades%20and%20Heretics%20IA13%20Update..pdf?dl=0 Automatically Appended Next Post: Mind you a V2.0 is in the works but since i have to write papers atm i am not really able to commit time atm.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/03/20 17:48:12
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/03/20 17:49:56
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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I'll have a goosey. Spasibo.
My life is hollow and empty so I have nothing but time, if you're looking for a collaborator.
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2019/03/20 18:21:50
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Excommunicatus wrote:I'll have a goosey. Spasibo.
My life is hollow and empty so I have nothing but time, if you're looking for a collaborator.
Sure have a gander over to the proposed rules section, it's well mostly written atm by me and uses IA13 as baseline but is actually rather a community effort on the part of the disgruntled R&H population still left
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/03/20 18:29:52
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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All five of us?
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2019/03/20 18:53:41
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Conscription law changed to "scrapping the barrell"
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/03/21 00:23:26
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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Malicious Mutant Scum
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Number six, reporting. Though I'm just starting to build a R&H force.
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2019/03/21 04:07:51
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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What we lack in players, we make up for in masses of human and mutant fodder.
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2019/03/21 10:30:04
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Or we would make up for it if the price is right.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/03/21 10:30:35
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/03/21 10:59:20
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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Malicious Mutant Scum
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Hey, at least we get the sick conversions. Because we don't really have a choice.
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2019/03/21 12:56:36
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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skonis wrote:
Hey, at least we get the sick conversions. Because we don't really have a choice.
Well gw conglomerate doesn't want my money, so be it 3rd parties do exist afterall.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/03/21 13:10:09
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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Malicious Mutant Scum
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Not Online!!! wrote: skonis wrote:
Hey, at least we get the sick conversions. Because we don't really have a choice.
Well gw conglomerate doesn't want my money, so be it 3rd parties do exist afterall.
I'm ok with converting from the other GDubs plastic lines, I just hope Rountree continues to be a standup guy and doesn't discontinue the R&H ruleset before I get to play my boys.
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2019/03/21 13:14:47
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Well the model line allready is oop.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/03/21 13:26:43
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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Malicious Mutant Scum
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Yeah, but I can live with that as long as I can table the things I make. To be honest, I wouldn't have bouth the FW models anyways, because I'm not made of money.
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2019/03/21 13:42:37
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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I don't think the R&H rules are going to be dropped, honestly, but my dudespeople are being built so they can also be used as an Astra Militarum list with minimum fuss. Just in case.
It opens up the option of them being used as part of a Genestealer Cult list, too. Budget is important to me so being able to use the same minis as three different Factions on the table is too good an opportunity to pass up.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/03/21 13:44:04
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2019/03/21 13:46:13
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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MHm, i will later today drop the updated version, somewhere around 3 H from now, not at the document atm, i did some shifting with SirHeckington, of the warplans and some overall ideas have been added. Your invited to help there then.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/03/21 14:29:09
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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Malicious Mutant Scum
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Excommunicatus wrote:I don't think the R&H rules are going to be dropped, honestly, but my dudespeople are being built so they can also be used as an Astra Militarum list with minimum fuss. Just in case.
It opens up the option of them being used as part of a Genestealer Cult list, too. Budget is important to me so being able to use the same minis as three different Factions on the table is too good an opportunity to pass up.
That really is an upside. I'm making some cultists that I can use for R&H or CSM. The Militia will be trickier, with the Chaos sigils and whatnot.
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2019/03/21 16:43:25
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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skonis wrote: Excommunicatus wrote:I don't think the R&H rules are going to be dropped, honestly, but my dudespeople are being built so they can also be used as an Astra Militarum list with minimum fuss. Just in case.
It opens up the option of them being used as part of a Genestealer Cult list, too. Budget is important to me so being able to use the same minis as three different Factions on the table is too good an opportunity to pass up.
That really is an upside. I'm making some cultists that I can use for R&H or CSM. The Militia will be trickier, with the Chaos sigils and whatnot.
well they still are cultists; just paramilitary or even military background applies there.
BTW update is up.
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/03/23 13:32:04
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Looks like the Noctilith crown could have some renegade play. Affects all chaos and isn't faction locked.
5+ invun aura. 6", going up to 12".
100pts is a hard sell but could probably get a good amount of renegade artillery in a 6" footprint.
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2019/03/23 13:44:30
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Captyn_Bob wrote:Looks like the Noctilith crown could have some renegade play. Affects all chaos and isn't faction locked.
5+ invun aura. 6", going up to 12".
100pts is a hard sell but could probably get a good amount of renegade artillery in a 6" footprint.
Hmm, have you seen how big earthshakers are? i would be asstounded if you managed to squeeze a battery in that area with crew,
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/03/24 06:48:24
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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Dakka Veteran
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Not Online!!! wrote:Captyn_Bob wrote:Looks like the Noctilith crown could have some renegade play. Affects all chaos and isn't faction locked.
5+ invun aura. 6", going up to 12".
100pts is a hard sell but could probably get a good amount of renegade artillery in a 6" footprint.
Hmm, have you seen how big earthshakers are? i would be asstounded if you managed to squeeze a battery in that area with crew,
Auras give the bonus to a unit that is within 6”+ so doesn’t have to be entirely within that range to get the bonus, much like units don’t have to be entirely within the bubble fir re rolls as long as a model from the unit is within range. I think the crown is a great addition especially since all of our useless ass troops only have a 6+ save a 5++ invun will make it worth it. I may need to make my troops more static now.
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2019/03/24 08:09:28
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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ulfhednir86 wrote:Not Online!!! wrote:Captyn_Bob wrote:Looks like the Noctilith crown could have some renegade play. Affects all chaos and isn't faction locked.
5+ invun aura. 6", going up to 12".
100pts is a hard sell but could probably get a good amount of renegade artillery in a 6" footprint.
Hmm, have you seen how big earthshakers are? i would be asstounded if you managed to squeeze a battery in that area with crew,
Auras give the bonus to a unit that is within 6”+ so doesn’t have to be entirely within that range to get the bonus, much like units don’t have to be entirely within the bubble fir re rolls as long as a model from the unit is within range. I think the crown is a great addition especially since all of our useless ass troops only have a 6+ save a 5++ invun will make it worth it. I may need to make my troops more static now.
Wrong in this case because it states "fully" within.
Like some Ork bubbles and that is the problem..
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https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH. |
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2019/03/24 13:28:03
Subject: Renegades and Heretics in 8th edition
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Malicious Mutant Scum
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Not Online!!! wrote: ulfhednir86 wrote:Not Online!!! wrote:Captyn_Bob wrote:Looks like the Noctilith crown could have some renegade play. Affects all chaos and isn't faction locked.
5+ invun aura. 6", going up to 12".
100pts is a hard sell but could probably get a good amount of renegade artillery in a 6" footprint.
Hmm, have you seen how big earthshakers are? i would be asstounded if you managed to squeeze a battery in that area with crew,
Auras give the bonus to a unit that is within 6”+ so doesn’t have to be entirely within that range to get the bonus, much like units don’t have to be entirely within the bubble fir re rolls as long as a model from the unit is within range. I think the crown is a great addition especially since all of our useless ass troops only have a 6+ save a 5++ invun will make it worth it. I may need to make my troops more static now.
Wrong in this case because it states "fully" within.
Like some Ork bubbles and that is the problem..
Hmm, just went over the rules and you're right. However, it does increase to a 9" bubble in turn 2, and a 12" bubble for turns 3 and forward. So, turn 1 you gotta pump up those numbers, those're rookie numbers in this racket, but come turn 3 you have a decent sized area in which you can place artillery and heavies, you can even bubblewrap them with your friendly little shooty units.
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