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After listening to Overlords Episode 59 and thinking about it myself, I've been wondering:
How the hell does Fenris have an eco-system? Everything is a predator, and there's no plants.

My theory is that it comes from plankton at the bottom of the food chain. But, how does that feed Thunderwolves?

Just a thought...

I'm sure Fenris does have at least this and this. *scnr*

Jokes aside, I think that it would work like in Earth's Tundra. Plus the usual amount of suspension of disbelief since 40k basically is a fantasy setting in space.

I'm pretty sure Fenris had thing's like stags and plants.

IN the Space Wolf Omnibus, William describes Ragnar Blackmane (Pre Space Wolf) fishin with his tribe. There must be a lot of fishing and hunting, but there are plants, as also stated

Just because a harsh place is described as a death world doesn't mean that there is only predators, it just means that pretty much everything is inimical to human life. There are all kinds of plants and herbivores which are dangerous to people, even on our own planet.

Hmm, interesting.

It has always seemed to me (from reading the codex) that every animal is the ultimate predator, something that stopped making sense long ago.

Given the general tenor of the Space Wolves book, I'm sure that even the arctic rabbits and alpine shrubs of Fenris are the deadliest in the universe.

And are covered in magic runes.

When Fenris was first discovered, it was determined that the Explorator fleet had flown half-way across the galaxy just to catch a beat-down from a bunny.

I am sure that there are herbivores on Fenris, but they don't really bear a lot of mention from the Space Wolves. That being said, even on a death world (which the 4th ed Codex claimed Fenris is) the herbivores are deadly. The Fenrisian Elk, according to Lexicanum, is posessed of razor sharp antlers, and one presumes a massive bulk. The number of defense mechanisms that prey animals can posess is staggering, and include poison, superior numbers, claws, fangs, not to mention symbiotic relationships with other, nastier flora and fauna.

In the space wolves novels one of the aspirants, Kjell i think, says something about a mans worth being the same as the size of his sheep flock. Not to mention the continent Asaheim which has large woods of coniferous trees.

Ya But Asaheim is sacred ground *the Fang*

It's still a part of Fenris.

Psienesis wrote:When Fenris was first discovered, it was determined that the Explorator fleet had flown half-way across the galaxy just to catch a beat-down from a bunny.

We have found the origin of monty python's rabbit.

Fenris is a cool setting, but it doesn't work logically as a functioning planet.

We don't have information on it's ecosystem. Making that statement is assuming a lot.

daveNYC wrote:Fenris is a cool setting, but it doesn't work logically as a functioning planet.

Most of GW fluff doesn't work logically. You just have to wear fantasy physics goggles when reading it.

Jayden63 wrote:

daveNYC wrote:Fenris is a cool setting, but it doesn't work logically as a functioning planet.

Most of GW fluff doesn't work logically. You just have to wear fantasy physics goggles when reading it.

Quite. It's just strange what bits break the suspension of disblief and which parts don't.

Botten3 wrote:Ya But Asaheim is sacred ground *the Fang*

It's also the furthest north and most wintery of the continents. The other ones would have even more vegetation.

In the Balttle of the Fang it talks about a dude hunting what I could assume as a bufflo? except grim dark. I guess they have grass and stuff there.

DarknessEternal wrote:

Botten3 wrote:Ya But Asaheim is sacred ground *the Fang*

It's also the furthest north and most wintery of the continents. The other ones would have even more vegetation.

Try only continent.
It's the only stable landmass on the entire planet.
Everything else is flooded and frozen at random.

daveNYC wrote:Fenris is a cool setting

Bloody freezing, even

daveNYC wrote:Fenris is a cool setting, but it doesn't work logically as a functioning planet.

I don't see how you can actually say this with the massive lack of actual 'data' about the planet, Fenris is basically an extrapilation of an ice age take to the nth degree, minus the space marines and the kraken if you described Fenris to someone they would probably imagine our ice age which was hibitated for a long time by many plants and animals.

Jimsolo wrote:I am sure that there are herbivores on Fenris, but they don't really bear a lot of mention from the Space Wolves. That being said, even on a death world (which the 4th ed Codex claimed Fenris is) the herbivores are deadly. The Fenrisian Elk, according to Lexicanum, is posessed of razor sharp antlers, and one presumes a massive bulk. The number of defense mechanisms that prey animals can posess is staggering, and include poison, superior numbers, claws, fangs, not to mention symbiotic relationships with other, nastier flora and fauna.

This is totally true, just look at one of the worlds most deadly animals, the hippo, an animal that eats grass but can rip a person in two.

DarknessEternal wrote:

Botten3 wrote:Ya But Asaheim is sacred ground *the Fang*

It's also the furthest north and most wintery of the continents. The other ones would have even more vegetation.

Actually they wouldn't because the land is constantly shifting. Forests wouldn't have time to grow for long periods. Grass and bushes would be the extent of the plant life. and actually that is better for animals in general as conifers are a poor source of food for most large herbivores.

Watch some nature shows about the arctic tundra. Thats what Fenris basically is, except its only animals that live year round there.


I would imagine it as the land you are standing on currently sinks down, but a nearby area rises up and the grass simply moves there. the water is also probably fairly shallow in lots of places so herds could easily swim a short distance to new pastures.