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So this is more of a thought than something really effective. now follow my logic here

after rotating a vehicle, heavy weapons(inside) can shoot. because it does not count as moving

if you paint something red, it can move 7 and count as moving 6 for troops inside.

so if you paint a vehicle red, move it 1, it should count as moving 0. but it has still moved.

so does not moving count the same as moving 0?

some real nasty rule shenangians I know.

That is what is called Vehicle Creep.

Not sure if they can shoot after you move though, since the 1" is something along the lines of when moving they move an extra inch.

RPJ lets you add one inch to your movement. No move, no inch.

Agreed. No move, no inch.

You are not allowed to move 1" or less with a vehicle that has red paint. Red paint states that you add 1" to your move, this is not optional. Also, Vehicles can't move 0", only infantry can do this due to difficult terrain and Run! (rolling for distance but not moving). If your model didn't move, it didn't move and you don't add 1". No loophole here.

DakkaDakka wrote:

Jidmah wrote:You are not allowed to move 1" or less with a vehicle that has red paint. Red paint states that you add 1" to your move, this is not optional. Also, Vehicles can't move 0", only infantry can do this due to difficult terrain and Run! (rolling for distance but not moving). If your model didn't move, it didn't move and you don't add 1". No loophole here.

the extra 1" is totally optional actually. However as stated there really is no loophole in this one. BRB (pg58) clearly states vehicles "that remained stationary" may fire all weapons. Moving 1" =/= remaining stationary. RJP does not allow you some fancy way to break this rule.

ork_smash wrote:

Jidmah wrote:You are not allowed to move 1" or less with a vehicle that has red paint. Red paint states that you add 1" to your move, this is not optional. Also, Vehicles can't move 0", only infantry can do this due to difficult terrain and Run! (rolling for distance but not moving). If your model didn't move, it didn't move and you don't add 1". No loophole here.

the extra 1" is totally optional actually. However as stated there really is no loophole in this one. BRB (pg58) clearly states vehicles "that remained stationary" may fire all weapons. Moving 1" =/= remaining stationary. RJP does not allow you some fancy way to break this rule.

I'd suggest that you re-read the codex, the +1" is not optional at all. One can either take RPJ and add 1" or not take RPJ. It's on page 93.

The rules for RPJ say it adds 1" to their move. If the vehicle doesn't move, it's not making a move right? Seems to me that the move is optional, but the +1" if you move is not.

Also, the rules for RPJ say it does not incur penalties for the extra inch(vehicle could move 13" and count as moving 12"). But you couldn't move the extra inch unless you move so it wouldn't work like that for the heavy weapon thing.

It's optional in that you don't have to move 13 inches, you can move 1-13. Buying RPJ merely gives you the ability to do so.

-cgmckenzie

I don't really see how "add +1" to move in the movement phase" means you MUST move 1 inch in the movement phase. It doesn't say that anywhere in the rules for RPJ. If the vehicle remains stationary, you don't move and there's nothing to add 1" to. Was this FAQ'd or something?

beigeknight wrote:I don't really see how "add +1" to move in the movement phase" means you MUST move 1 inch in the movement phase. It doesn't say that anywhere in the rules for RPJ. If the vehicle remains stationary, you don't move and there's nothing to add 1" to. Was this FAQ'd or something?

They're saying that RPJ always adds 1" to the vehicles movement. But, you are free to not move if you so choose.

So, you can do the following:
Not move
Move any distance from 1" to 13" (or more if fast, on a road, etc)

But, you can't move a distance less than 1".


Edit:
And, of course, as long as you're not Tank Shocking, you can use that 1" to move 0.75" forward, 0.25" back and end up 0.5" away from the start. So, really, there's no restriction unless you want to tank shock less than an inch.

Ahh I see what you're saying.

What moving 0.5 forward and then 0.5 back?

Deadshot wrote:What moving 0.5 forward and then 0.5 back?

you would have to move at least 0.0000001 inches to move the additional inch.