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Hi all!

This is just something that came up when I was at the 'Ard boyz tournament. I didn't really talk about it at that moment since it did not affect my game much, but now that I think about it, I think there was something wrong. So I was playing against a tyranid player, he had a pretty interesting list, and it involved a huge group of hormagaunts. My question is that can they assualt a drop pod even though they cannot hurt it? Does the rule book say anything about it?

Also, can you have furious charge, re-roll to wound and rending all at once for a ravaner? I don't have a nid codex, and my LGS closed down, so I can't really check right now. The tyranid player had maybe 10 raveners that just chewed through my front line in 2 turns...

Thanks for your time!

No, there is no rule that prevents you from shooting or assaulting something that your weapons can't actually hurt.

As for the ravenor, no, it can't do that. If they have rending, that means they gave up one set of scything talons, and so can only reroll ones to hit. They don't inherently possess furious charge, and I don't think they can take adrenal glands. Also, max unit size is 9.

A recentish WD battle report (IG vs DE ) had a unit of DE hellions assaulting a tank they couldn't hurt to gain a free move in that direction.

No rule against it.

Wings of Purity wrote:Also, can you have furious charge, re-roll to wound and rending all at once for a ravaner?

Rending claws for giving up some rerolls on misses, check. Furious Charge can be gained from another unit, check. Rerolls to wound, now those I'm unable to find in my Tyranid codex.

Wings of Purity wrote:Also, can you have furious charge, re-roll to wound and rending all at once for a ravaner? I don't have a nid codex, and my LGS closed down, so I can't really check right now. The tyranid player had maybe 10 raveners that just chewed through my front line in 2 turns...

Furious Charge - Adrenal Glands.
Reroll to Wound - Toxin Sacs (always wounds on a 4+, if you equal their toughness with your strength, you can reroll to wound as per poison rules).
Rending - Rending Claws.

Perfectly fine (pretty sure they can take adrenal glands and toxin sacs, it's been a while since I read their entry). The only part that could be considered cheating is if he was rerolling successful, non-rending hits to get rending out of it, but I'm not sure how the poison rule is worded.

-Loki- wrote:Perfectly fine (pretty sure they can take adrenal glands and toxin sacs, it's been a while since I read their entry).

In the previous codex perhaps, not in the new one. Now they're only allowed the Rending claws and a choice of three different guns.

Wow. After reading this I was thinking of running some... that's quite the limitation they put on Ravenors.

-Loki- wrote:Wow. After reading this I was thinking of running some... that's quite the limitation they put on Ravenors.

Considering they have a 19-24 inch assault range, I think its fair.

Raveners cannot take toxin sacs or adrenal glands.

They do get 12" charge range and have dual scything talons as standard (so reroll all misses) or can take rending claws (reroll 1s to hit, but rending on the to wound roll).

If they are in the hive tyrants preferred enemy bubble though, then go for rending and you can still reroll your misses. No way for them to reroll to wound though.