| Author |
Message |
 |
|
|
 |
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/18 04:09:57
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Lurking Gaunt
|
I heard somewhere online that there was a Adeptus Mechanicus army and codex is there? Because i thought it would be cool to use Chaos Bitz and make them Dark Mechanicus.
So is there one?
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/08/18 04:14:35
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/18 04:17:10
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
The Hammer of Witches
A new day, a new time zone.
|
There is not.
|
"-Nonsense, the Inquisitor and his retinue are our hounoured guests, of course we should invite them to celebrate Four-armed Emperor-day with us..." Thought for the Day - Never use the powerfist hand to wipe. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/18 04:19:39
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Lurking Gaunt
|
So the codex pictures and techpriest soldiers are fake arent they?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/18 04:22:19
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
|
That would be a really cool list; tech priests, tech marines, servitors, and a load of tanks.
Alas, it has never happened. Links to those photos you mentioned would be cool, though.
-cgmckenzie
|
1500 pts
3000 pts
4-5k+pts
======Begin Dakka Geek Code======
DS:80-S+G++M+++B+IPw40k10#++D++A+++/hWD387R+++T(D)DM+
======End Dakka Geek Code====== |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/18 04:44:06
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Lurking Gaunt
|
Question whats skittari? i heard people saying you can make a legal army list for imperial guard with tech-priests/skittari?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/18 04:51:25
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
Retrosplicer wrote:Question whats skittari? i heard people saying you can make a legal army list for imperial guard with tech-priests/skittari?
Skitarii are the basic foot soldiers of the Mechanicus. They're similar to Guardsmen (armed with Lasguns, expendable, etc.) but more durable due to bionic enhancements and often follow orders in the field with a kind of machine precision.
Really a Ad Mech codex is overdue, it'd bring something new to the table.
Could look something like:
- HQ: Tech Priests
-Elites: Praetorian, Electro-Priest
-Troops: Skitarii, Gun Servitor, Cataphract Rhino/Chimera
-Fast Attack: Land Speeder, Sentinel
-Heavy Support: Sagittarii, Myrmidon Walker, Leman Russ, Thudd Gun/Thunderfire Cannon
-Super Heavy: Knight or some kind of Land Crawler
And for Apoc games....bring in the Titans!
|
|
This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2011/08/18 04:52:52
My Armies:
5,500pts
2,700pts
2,000pts
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/18 04:57:56
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Lurking Gaunt
|
The skitarri arent on the Games Workshop store and forgeworld does not have them either so were would i get them?
Sorry for asking alot of questions i just wanted to make a Dark Mechanicus army with my Chaos Space Marine army.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/18 04:59:47
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
The Mojave desert
|
The tempus fugitives do have a mechanicus codex on their website, it's not official but it is pretty good.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/18 05:05:44
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
Retrosplicer wrote:The skitarri arent on the Games Workshop store and forgeworld does not have them either so were would i get them?
Sorry for asking alot of questions i just wanted to make a Dark Mechanicus army with my Chaos Space Marine army.
There are no official Skitarii models out, nor are there any for any Mechanicus units except Tech Priests (with Imperial Guard). Everything you find online is conversions by hobbyists.
|
My Armies:
5,500pts
2,700pts
2,000pts
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/18 06:14:03
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Norn Queen
|
Harriticus wrote:Skitarii are the basic foot soldiers of the Mechanicus. They're similar to Guardsmen (armed with Lasguns, expendable, etc.) but more durable due to bionic enhancements and often follow orders in the field with a kind of machine precision.
That's tech Guard, Guard stationed on Forge worlds. Skitarii are totally different. They're heavily augmented, as much as Astartes in a lot of cases, though all bionic and not biological implants, with various ranged and close combat weapons, and act as supporting foot troops to Titan advances. Skitarii are nothing like Guard at all.
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/08/18 06:14:48
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/18 06:20:26
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Lady of the Lake
|
Actually that's not Skitarii either, it's the general term they use for their infantry based armies not unit type. Pretty much they are all Skitarii, just need to break it down to the different classes.
Harriticus meant Hyspasists by the sounds of it and it sounds like you're describing the Praetorians. Though the Praetorians seem to change appearence based on who wrote the story about them appearing as elite Hyspasists somewhere between marine and human yet at other times a sort of Servitor mini tank.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/18 07:57:09
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Lurking Gaunt
|
i was looking around and i actually found some Skittari/Tech Guard models you can order online.
http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/iron-brotherhood-c-36_43.html.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/18 08:09:54
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
|
No, those are iron brotherhood minis, those are not skitarii/tech guard at all, however they would be a suitable representation.
In regards to Hypaspists, etc. there is a bit of inconsistency in the fluff. In some books, such as Dark Adeptus, Tech Guard/Skitarii are shown to be little more than augmented guard. However, in TItanicus the 'Skitarii' legions are described as being more like Astartes than anything else.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/18 08:11:20
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/18 17:33:37
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
-Loki- wrote:Harriticus wrote:Skitarii are the basic foot soldiers of the Mechanicus. They're similar to Guardsmen (armed with Lasguns, expendable, etc.) but more durable due to bionic enhancements and often follow orders in the field with a kind of machine precision.
That's tech Guard, Guard stationed on Forge worlds. Skitarii are totally different. They're heavily augmented, as much as Astartes in a lot of cases, though all bionic and not biological implants, with various ranged and close combat weapons, and act as supporting foot troops to Titan advances. Skitarii are nothing like Guard at all.
I base a lot of my info on them from the Dark Apostle Novel where they were how I described.
There's also this to consider: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Skitarii
|
My Armies:
5,500pts
2,700pts
2,000pts
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/19 20:39:57
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
|
Harriticus wrote:-Loki- wrote:Harriticus wrote:Skitarii are the basic foot soldiers of the Mechanicus. They're similar to Guardsmen (armed with Lasguns, expendable, etc.) but more durable due to bionic enhancements and often follow orders in the field with a kind of machine precision.
That's tech Guard, Guard stationed on Forge worlds. Skitarii are totally different. They're heavily augmented, as much as Astartes in a lot of cases, though all bionic and not biological implants, with various ranged and close combat weapons, and act as supporting foot troops to Titan advances. Skitarii are nothing like Guard at all.
I base a lot of my info on them from the Dark Apostle Novel where they were how I described.
There's also this to consider: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Skitarii
Skitarii are often armed with similar equipment to Imperial guard, though this can vary massively based on which Magos, Mechanicus Organisation or Forge World has raised and equipped them. There is little standardisation or central command of Skitarii across the Mechanicus, as each individual regiment is the personal army of a particular Magos. For example, the Skitarii of the Titan Legion Invictus are gene-bulked humans with weaponised limbs and augmetic armour4, whereas a different type of Skitarii investigated the dead world of Tarsis Ultra, and were seen to be wearing something similar in both function and design to Terminator armour.2
In other words, there is no real clear cut winner in this argument, since GW, and particularly the Black Library, can't make up their mind on the issue.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/19 20:57:51
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Resentful Grot With a Plan
|
I would love an Adeptus Mechanicusarmy especially after reading Mechanicum but alas there is none, well so far at least.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/20 07:13:12
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
|
Just make an ad mech army with rules of a different army. I am building an ad mech army right now, when i was at lower points i played them as chaos deamons. I began making them to use them as a themed necron force and that's what i have officially designed them as.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/20 15:56:48
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Fully-charged Electropriest
|
I have a Ad Mech force based off Chaos Space Marine rules...the only thing they can't do is fix stuff in the feild. Hopefully the next Chaos Codex will give that option to Iron Warriors, and maybe add Cultists in to use as Skitarii.
Pics of my minions are in my gallery, although some (Like the Defiler turned Knight) have been updated since then.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/20 19:28:53
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
|
Ad mech can be represented in almost every codex. Even though i've used it for deamons and will absolutley and always have wanted to use the necron codex, i've seen many many others.
I've seen Ad mech represented in:
Witch hunters (arbites)
Imperial Guard (lots of ST, vets, mech)
Space marines (ehhhhh dumb)
crons
GK henchmen lists
deamons
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/20 21:05:50
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Hellish Haemonculus
|
I think you mean represented as, not represented in, Alex.
Play AdMech all you like with whatever Codex you think represents them the best. You probably will never see them as an actual army from Games Workshop. If GW does break down and give us a whole new army, I would hope it is something far more original than the AdMech.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/21 09:26:16
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
|
Jimsolo wrote:I think you mean represented as, not represented in, Alex.
Play AdMech all you like with whatever Codex you think represents them the best. You probably will never see them as an actual army from Games Workshop. If GW does break down and give us a whole new army, I would hope it is something far more original than the AdMech.
I disagree, i think the admech are 100% unique. They are one of the heads of the dual headed eagle, they produce much of the imperiums mech, etc.
They are techpriests, robots, cyborgs, read up on fluff, thiers is pretty good. Hey they're popular for a reason afterall...
as for GW making them an army i have to concede i don't see it ever happening either and if so, it would be like apoc formations or maybe a WD article on skitarii or something.
Though mechanicus are a fleet in BFG, and from what i've been told their cheesier than blackstone fortresses.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/21 16:32:26
Subject: Re:Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Smokin' Skorcha Driver
|
IronfrontAlex wrote:Jimsolo wrote:I think you mean represented as, not represented in, Alex.
Play AdMech all you like with whatever Codex you think represents them the best. You probably will never see them as an actual army from Games Workshop. If GW does break down and give us a whole new army, I would hope it is something far more original than the AdMech.
I disagree, i think the admech are 100% unique. They are one of the heads of the dual headed eagle, they produce much of the imperiums mech, etc.
They are techpriests, robots, cyborgs, read up on fluff, thiers is pretty good. Hey they're popular for a reason afterall...
as for GW making them an army i have to concede i don't see it ever happening either and if so, it would be like apoc formations or maybe a WD article on skitarii or something.
Though mechanicus are a fleet in BFG, and from what i've been told their cheesier than blackstone fortresses.
What did you disagree with? That GW will never make a codex for them? Or that you should choose a pre-existing codex to "count-as" for them?
Because I agree with both those points.
1) GW won't make ad mech army. You can wishlist all you want.
2) Yes they are unique but any codex without that " GW offical Seal of Approval" will never be seen as legit no matter how good or balanced it is. It is just human nature to go "well your army is overpowered because it's not a GW codex" regardless of the truth. Or more often, it'll trigger a "just play a real codex" response. Within a small group of friends it may be acceptable but you can never reasonably expect other people to accept it as a legitimate codex. The irony is that GW's codicies aren't even good anymore and many fandexes surpass them in quality control and playtested balance.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/22 07:17:21
Subject: Adeptus Mechanicus Codex/Army?
|
 |
Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
|
I disagreed with them not being unique!
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
|
|