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These are my models i have so far and need an army list!, please suggest new units to buy, thank you!

Autarch

Farseer

4x warlocks

10x Guardians

10x Dire Avengers

10x Banshees

6x Fire Dragons

A Falcon and a Wave Serpent

Quite hard to choose models for you when I don't know what type of game you want to play!

If you want to play tanks, get another Falcon, put the Dire Avengers in them both (2 5-man squads) and get another Wave Serpent for the Fire Dragons.

If you want to play mass infantry, think of getting an avatar: he'll make all your units within 12" fearless which is nice when you're walking with all your infantry.

Iranna.

Okay, cheers pal i@m getting an Avatar for my birthday but i'm worried he may receive so much fire he will be killed in the first two or three turns?

Avatar being fortuned by a farseer i have ound to be nigh unkillable because of the high T and the re-rollable saves. Plus him and 2 wraith lords (if ur taking an avatar you need wraith lords for target saturation) make a nasty headache for some oponents to try and deal with. Plus the farseer helps with the wraith lords sight test.

my two cents

Prince yriel would be good to take with your banshees

yeah i need a wraith lord, there just too darn expensive! prince yriel, why?

yriel is a melee monster and can pop tanks basicly everything an autarch is but better with banshees its a beasst CC squad

now as far as what next to get my advice another DA squad
another banshee squad
another fire dragon squad
4 more wave serpents
3 fire prisms

knowing what kind of army you want would help us tell you what to get and in what order but if you want a mech build

get serpents first one per troop squad
i run 2 DA 2 FD seers on the DA squads two fire prisms and 4 serpents so i would buy those models for 1500 points going to 2k I would get a 3rd prism another serpent and add banshees and vypers at 2.5k another banshee vyper and DA squad to the list progressing from what list you want to run helps i did that with my Tau an avoided useless models

wraithlords right now are too expensive they make an ok weapons platform better points spent are prisms

so really let use know what army type you want to run and we can let you know what to get when

I need to throw down some Yriel hate real quick.

Hes bad ass. He has Ws, Bs and Initiative to match an Archon and a weapon which will cut through a carnifex as quickly as a terminator or Space Marine.

Unfortunately for Yriel... hes expensive- he costs as much as an Avatar, and hes very frail. Yriel t3, with only a 3+ armour and 4++ invulnerable save means that most tough infantry squads will instant kill him. He also suffers in that he cannot assault out of a transport that moved, and really lacks a good body guard. I suppose he can add a bit of punch to a banshee squad, and some insurance against walkers. However he usually needs to guarentee the death of whatever he is attacking. For instance if he doesn't kill the dreadnaught or carnifex they'll instant death him, and if he doesn't kill that marine squad he'll get fisted. Same goes for his eye of wraith. You need to detach him and charge somebody all by his lonesome to pull it off. Sure it can be awesome, but it also basically gives up a kill point because you now have a t3 not eternal warrior model with middling saves standing in the middle of the board just asking to be instant killed.

If you are spending 155 points on an HQ just take an Avatar....

what ever you do, don't listen to Atlas' advice about your future purchases.
1) purchasing another banshee squad and another fire dragon squad would put you at 4 elites which is illegal
2) you don't need 3 fire prisms. 2 fire prisms and a falcon are a solid choice too.
3) don't by more wave serpents then you have troops to transport.

But yea. You kind of have a bunch of interesting model choices that could go either way for foot or mech.

Dire Avengers, Banshees and Fire Dragons are all much better in transports

Avatar and Guardians are much better in a foot list.

Since you already have a falcon and a wave serpent I would advice changing your future avatar gift into more tanks, etc.

I think it would be cheaper overall for you at this point to convert to a mechanized list, as opposed to a good foot list. But as always the most important thing is to build an army you are passionate about.

As to the inevitable "well can't I do both?" Well technically yes, yes you can. IF AND ONLY IF you don't mind getting the floor wiped with your face brutally and often until you know your army like the back of your hand. Running a mech-foot hybrid army is incredibly difficult to do well. Its much better and easier to learn the Eldar army by focusing on building lists that all move at the same speed.

Tanks, Transported infantry, jetbikes, and warpspiders in a fast list

Avatar, Wraithlords, foot infantry in a foot list.

The exception to this rule is War Walkers, who possess such great fire power for cost and enough movement ability from scout that they can excell in any type of list. Although they tend to lose some of their effectiveness in larger mechanized lists.

If you are looking to good in your future matches I would highly advise you future purchases be 2 Wave Serpents. An avatar, while a cool model, won't do a whole lot of you with the models you have listed there.

As far as a list is concerned with you current models try this one out...


750 list (746)
- Faseer w/ Guide, RoWarding
- Autarch w/ Fusion Gun

- 6 Fire Dragons in Wave Serpent w/ TL Scatter Laser

- 5 Dire Avengers (goes in the Falcon)
- 10 Guardians w/ Scatter Laser + Warlock w/ Embolden

- Falcon w/ EML, Stones, Holofield


The Farseer goes in the Falcon along with the Dire Avengers and casts guide on it each turn, so you have 3 48" S8 weapons for hitting armor. The Autauch goes with the Dragons and, while not optimal, he will help your reserves and give the Dragons a bit more survivability. The Guardians park themselves in cover by an objective and use their Scatter Lasers to pop low armor tanks.

As far as practical advice goes I can't really say that increasing above 750pts will be a good idea without more Wave Serpent to safely transport those other dire avengers or Banshees. But with 2 Serpents you can bump up to 1250pts.

- Faseer w/ Guide, Doom, RoWarding, Stones (Goes with Falcon still, but move into position for a doom before a Banshee Assault)
- Autarch w/ Power Weapon (Goes with Banshees)

- 5 Fire Dragons in Wave Serpent w/ TL Scatter Laser
- 9 Howling Banshees + Exarch w/ Executioner in Wave Serpent w/ TL Scatter Laser

- 5 Dire Avengers (goes in the Falcon)
- 5 Dire Avengers in Wave Serpent w/ TL Scatter Laser
- 10 Guardians w/ Scatter Laser + Warlock w/ Embolden

- Falcon w/ EML, Stones, Holofield

I really llike war walkers. I think they are cheap 180 points for a squad of 3 and 2x scatter lasers = 24 S6 shots per turn. Give then guide with a farseer or better yet two squads near Eldrad who can cast Fortune twice in one turn and watch horde armies fall. I usually take three squads in my list, many times taking 1 squad with EML for heavier things, although depends on what I am running. This is just my opinion though.

buying the extra stuff i sugested doesnt make the list illegal but enlarges the squad ammount and give the play some room to structure 5 man squads of aything in the eldar codex dont last they become a one glass slap not a cannon that they need to be.

yes yriel is glass however ALL of eldars troops and elites are glass as well they need to be the attacker at the start of any exchange if they want to hold up, unless you want a small scoring unit but as i say in my other post WHAT DIRECTION DO YOU WANT TO GO. any of use can sit here and run our mouths about OUR approach but what type of set up do you want to run? theres alot of builds you can run with a Mech list so what direction do you want to take it.

IVe seen bluedagger post in mech thread TONS of ways a variations alone so what do you want?