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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 11:58:20
Subject: Paladins and Brotherhood of Psykers
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Reading through the Paladin entry in the Grey Knights Codex I noticed that Paladins don't get a Justicar. My question thus is: How do you resolve a PotW or another BoP effect on Paladins? You can't have it target the Justicar/Knight of the Flame, as there isn't one. On the other hand, you can't have it target a random member either, as the /Knight of the Flame isn't dead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 12:24:23
Subject: Paladins and Brotherhood of Psykers
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Regular Dakkanaut
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It targets a random model in the unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 12:27:49
Subject: Paladins and Brotherhood of Psykers
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Heroic Senior Officer
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SD has it, random model.
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Don "MONDO"
www.ironfistleague.com
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 12:28:22
Subject: Paladins and Brotherhood of Psykers
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Apprehensive Inquisitorial Apprentice
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On that note, is it actually a random model (as in on a D6 roll of 1 it is model A, D6 roll of 2 it is model B, etc ..) or does it mean you are free to pick any model in the unit to take the perils?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 12:33:36
Subject: Paladins and Brotherhood of Psykers
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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DutchSage wrote:On that note, is it actually a random model (as in on a D6 roll of 1 it is model A, D6 roll of 2 it is model B, etc ..) or does it mean you are free to pick any model in the unit to take the perils?
Random means random. Picking would be open to abuse.
Regarding it targeting a random model, can you back it up with rules? As I pointed out in the OP you only resolve it against a random model if the Justicar/ KotF is dead. As there is no Paladin Justicar/ KotF, there's no way to resolve the rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 12:52:20
Subject: Paladins and Brotherhood of Psykers
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Sure, they died before you ever got to the table. That or the game stops.
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Don "MONDO"
www.ironfistleague.com
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 12:54:58
Subject: Re:Paladins and Brotherhood of Psykers
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Apprehensive Inquisitorial Apprentice
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Although technically you are correct in saying there is no way to resolve it without a Justicar/Knight of the Flame having been part of the unit. However I suspect 100% of Tournament Organisers/Judges will rule that you follow the rule assuming the Justicar/Knight of the Flame has died, so using a random model.
Another example of sloppy rules, if they had simply worded it like this instead:
..., it is resolved against the Justicar or Knight of the Flame or against a random non-character model in the squad if there is no Justicar or Knight of the Flame in the squad.
this issue wouldn't have come up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 13:33:18
Subject: Paladins and Brotherhood of Psykers
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Furious Fire Dragon
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What do you do if any squad loses it's Justicar? Do they no longer suffer PotW when using their power? Page 21 says random non-character model. Why would Paladins be any different?
Homer
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/08/24 13:35:50
The only "hobby" GW is interested in is lining their pockets with your money.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/24 13:46:52
Subject: Paladins and Brotherhood of Psykers
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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...because BoP says what to do if the Knight dies - NOT what to do if the knight isnt there.
Given this can happen with CS a 10 man squad, and not just paladins, then "pick a random model anyway" is the most sensible solution.
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