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If a unit with 4 models is in combat, all of them get hit by purple sun and 3 fail the initiative test, do you have to remove models so that the lone remaining model is in base to base with as many enemy models as possible?

Similarly, if a unit with 4 models is in combat, 3 of them are hit by purple sun and all 3 fail the initiative tests, do you remove the 3 specific models that were hit by purple sun or just any 3 models?

1) i am not aware of any rule that says when you remove casualties you have to keep the most in base. only on the charge

2) because there are fewer than 5 models in the unit i would say you have to remove the 3 models directly hit.

What if those models are monstrous infantry?

It makes absolutely no difference whatsoever.

PS is not a shooting attack, so you dont randomise - you remove the models that die

Hmm well i guess that means you need to roll saves individually...

But what happens if purple sun leaves large gaps in a formation? Do you tighten up for free?

You can't leave gaps in a unit as that would be an illegal unit formation. So, yes, you tighten the unit up.

We just remove models and keep maximized. It eliminates the whole confusion.

When there is no difference in the models then remove as per the usual rules for removing models - from the back, then equally from each side.

Any page numbers? Only part i can find is on page 51 where it says that models are removed from the rear rank but do not specify equally from each side.


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Hmm hold on...for purple sun, can you place the template anywhere on the battlefield or do you have to place it in base contact with the caster, with the center hole in the caster's front arc?

No page numbers?

Purple Sun follows the vortex rules on pg 31, which tells you how to place and resolve it.

As to removing models, the evenly from both sides, that is only when you are in one rank as per page 45, unless there is something in the FAQ. You can remove models from the back rank anyway you want as long as you keep a legal formation. Removing evenly from each side does keep the unit neat and centered, and is more aesthetically pleasing, although not always the best way tactically.

So theres no rule saying you have to remove models to keep the most in base to base?

What about casaulties from combat then?

See pg 49 Incomplete Ranks.

While you could remove models from B2B from the flank, you then have to slide them right back into B2B.

Otherwise, I am not sure about the situation you are alluding to.

Heres a picture to illutrate what im talking about.

Lets say i have 4 treekin in combat with a unit of 5 wide greatswords. All are in base to base at the start.

2 of the treekin are hit by purple sun, fail their saves and die.

Do i have to remove specifically the 2 treekin hit by purple sun?

If the answer is a no, then can i remove models so that i end up with-Situation A, only 3 greatswords are now in combat with the 2 remaining treekin

Or am i forced to keep as many in base to base as possible, Situation B, where all 5 greatswords remain in base to base?

You remove equally from each side

Yep, since this is a single rank, you remove evenly from both sides as per pg 5.