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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 20112015/12/05 03:16:34
Subject: 2k IG Russ Spam
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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Russ Spam List 2k
HQ
CCS - 155
2 Plasma
2 Melta
Chimera
Troops
Vets
3x melta
Chimera
Vets
3x Melta
Chimera
Heavy
3x Demolishers
3x Las
3x LRBT
3x Las
3x LRBT
3x Las
Total - 1995
Comments? I know I dont have many troops, but I plan to just have them in reserve till they're needed, till then spam with the demos and russes
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/08/26 18:16:53
37,500 pts Daemon Army of the Gods
35,000 pts - X - Iron Tenth
15,000pts - Firehawks
7,000 pts - Nighthaunt
 
Dkok - 1850
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/26 18:26:24
Subject: Re:2k IG Russ Spam
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Honestly, if I were going for Leman Russ Spam, I would take (large) squads on foot with Camo Cloak Lord Commisars. Why? Because right now you have two target groups: AV12 and AV14/13. And I can tell you that there are a lot of weapons out there that demolish AV12 but barely hinder AV14. The problem with fielding the smattering of AV12 is that all those guns are going to be pointed directly at your Chimeras as soon as they arrive.
Consider instead that your opponent's only targets are Russes and Infantry that have a 3+ Cover save, and are Stubborn on re-rollable LD10. That vastly limits the effectiveness of whole categories of weapons, making your entire force far more resilient to shooting.
I would honestly err toward having large blobs of Infantry (without Chimeras) even if it means cutting out a couple Leman Russes. Give them Heavy Weapons so you can affect more than 3 targets/turn, and have them screen or be screened by the Russes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/26 19:15:08
Subject: Re:2k IG Russ Spam
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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How about this?
HQ
CCS - 175
Commander - pwr weapon, pwr fist
2 Plasma
2 Melta
Camo cloak
Master of Ordanace
Troops
Vets - 150
3x melta
Lascannon
Forward Sentry Doc - 30
Vets - 150
3x melta
Lascannon
Forward Sentry Doc - 30
Vets - 150
3x Melta
Lascannon
Forward Senty Doc - 30
Vets - 150
3x Melta
Lascannon
Forward Senty Doc - 30
Heavy
3x Demolishers
3x Las
2x LRBT
2ax Las
2x LRBT
2x Las
Total - 1975
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37,500 pts Daemon Army of the Gods
35,000 pts - X - Iron Tenth
15,000pts - Firehawks
7,000 pts - Nighthaunt
 
Dkok - 1850
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/26 20:02:34
Subject: Re:2k IG Russ Spam
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Definitely better than the first incarnation. I still think standard Platoons are your best bet, as when they're combined they form a huge wound buffer for your Heavy Weapons, and they're much more resilient to leadership tests with a Commisar (Lord or otherwise).
If you're more into Vets, I'd suggest the CCS drop the special weapons and just use a Lascannon weapon team, and add a Regimental Standard. The Standard will help keep your Vets from running away after a couple casualties, and with the Lascannon you have more range and better synergy with the Master of Ordnance.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/08/26 20:02:45
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/26 21:46:11
Subject: 2k IG Russ Spam
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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Hmm, could ya write up what your talking about? For the pts its kinda cheaper to get the vets
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37,500 pts Daemon Army of the Gods
35,000 pts - X - Iron Tenth
15,000pts - Firehawks
7,000 pts - Nighthaunt
 
Dkok - 1850
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/26 23:06:34
Subject: Re:2k IG Russ Spam
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The idea is to take a platoon with several infantry squads, then use the combined squads rule to put them together in blobs of 20 or 30 guardsmen. For each such blob, one of the infantry squads should add a commissar upgrade, which cannot be singled out because he is not IC. Now each blob is stubborn at LD 9, and even if they fail the roll, the commissar uses summary execution rule to execute a sergeant and receive a reroll on the leadership while still being stubborn.
You can spice up this list with some power weapons on the sergeants and commissars and maybe take some HWTs as part of the platoon to get some autocannon shots that can fire at things that you do not want to waste the LR shots on.
What he is talking about in terms of target saturation is that in a hybrid list of power blobs and heavy armor, all medium strength weapons in the enemy list are made largely inefficient. For example, autocannons at S7 are overkill on guardsmen and cannot touch Av14 on the Russes. But if you had 2-3 chimeras, autocannons would be a highly cost-efficient way to take the chimeras down (glance on 5, pen on 6, multiple shots).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/26 23:12:05
Subject: 2k IG Russ Spam
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Death-Dealing Ultramarine Devastator
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I just want to play a russ spam army. Sounds so cool.
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S.O.U. (Straight Outta Ultramar)
4000 points + fully painted!
Eldar of Ulthwe
1,500 points
Rid-Ex Nids
1,600 points-in progress
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/26 23:12:41
Subject: 2k IG Russ Spam
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Frenzied Juggernaut
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Ah I see now. Power blobs and tank. Intense. Horde plus Tank spam. I like it. Ill post something in a bit to see if I cant come up with something like that
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37,500 pts Daemon Army of the Gods
35,000 pts - X - Iron Tenth
15,000pts - Firehawks
7,000 pts - Nighthaunt
 
Dkok - 1850
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