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Hey guys,

Just posting this to try and get some general feedback on a issue that needs some other opinions to clarify it up a bit . This issue deals with Open topped transports and the units inside, My question is are the units inside able to fire at a different unit that the transport isn't shooting at, (Venom shots 2 Splinter cannons into a squad of Assault marines, And the 4 TR inside shot their blasters at a unit of terminators). I have seen this tactic used in several battle reports with several different armies, And then seen some Btr's where this was disallowed. I cant seem to find rules in the 5th Edition rulebook that states that you can or can't do this.

So leave your views on this issue all of them will be very helpful!

Thanks

The Venom and the embarked squads are two different units... ergo each unit can shoot at different targets.

If the vehicle (open topped or not) moved more than 6 inches, then the embarked units may NOT fire...

Since the transport is one unit and the troops being transported are a different unit they may fire at different targets.

For reference sake, this is clarified in the Rulebook FAQ.

Thanks guys

And, if the transport moved 6" models can still shoot, however only one weapon. This includes the transport weapons too iirc. Unles the people inside have difensive weapons (str 4 or less)

Venom can move 6 or 12 and shot both splinter cannons and the units inside (Trueborn) can move 6 in the venom and shot all 4 blasters, as they are assault weapons

Well nvm me :p

Ahah its ok you gotta learn something everyday to make the game more fun

ImpGuardPanzies wrote:And, if the transport moved 6" models can still shoot, however only one weapon. This includes the transport weapons too iirc. Unles the people inside have difensive weapons (str 4 or less)

The above is partially incorrect.

If a unit is inside a vehicle and that vehicle moves combat speed, the unit inside can shoot as many weapons as the vehicle has fire points. For open topped vehicles everyone inside can shoot, since open topped vehicles essentially have unlimited fire points. The unit does count as having moved though so non-relentless units can not fire heavy weapons.

As for the OP, the vehicle and the unit inside are different units and may fire at different targets.

This is my error. I thought that the units inside could only fire one weapon at combat speed, except for those that fit the defencive weapons profile.

No. Restrictions on how many weapons the vehicle can fire have no bearing on what an embarked unit can fire

ImpGuardPanzies wrote:This is my error. I thought that the units inside could only fire one weapon at combat speed, except for those that fit the defencive weapons profile.

As nosferatu said, the vehicle's restrictions and allowances do not carry over to the units inside.

Remember that embarked units that will fire count as having moved, so no hevy weapons can be fired by the passengers unless they are relentless.

OK, thank you. glad i got that cleared up. Will have to pass this onto my friends. weve been doin a lot wrong. :p