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Hrmm, worst Space Marine Chapter. Let's see.

Salamanders-No, they couldn't just have someone with a dark skin color! They had to have their skin LITERALLY BURNT BLACK by the sun! Yeah, that's pretty stupid. However, the rest of their fluff is good and stuff to distinguish them from other Chapters, so they aren't the worst.

Blood Angels-Alright, every Loyalist Primarch has died, yet this is the only Chapter who went emo as a result. The explanation behind it is generally vague and poorly thought out, but to be honest that can be said about a lot of things in 40k. This is their defining trait, so that makes them a candidate for worst Chapter, but it isn't too bad so they're a Dark House.

Ultramarines-These guys were built off of a fine concept; mostly generic Marines with a Roman Theme. But they made them into ultra Mary Sues. I can't think of a single time they suffered a major defeat and didn't still win whatever war/overall battle they were in. Hell, I can only think of a single defeat they had. Due to this, they're a strong candidate for worst Chapter.

Space Sharks and Rainbow Warriors-Alright, these names are terrible. However, they are so over the top and were down that way on purpose so that I don't think the names are actually that bad. As a result they aren't a contender, but they easily could've been.

Space Wolves-I've explained earlier that they're hipsters. I don't feel like explaining it again, but I'm sure I'll do it if someone asks. In addition, they use the word "Wolf" way too much. This puts them as a strong contender alongside the Ultramarines.

Hawk Lords-Even Slaanesh worshippers aren't allowed to have a colorscheme this bad. However, they have no bad fluff, so they're only a moderate contender.

Grey Knights-Similar to the Ultramarines, they were built on a fine concept and were indeed done well for awhile, but with their recent Codex they've strayed into Mary Sue territories. These guys are a strong contender aswell.

Doom Eagles-They're like the Rainbow Warriors, except their name wasn't a satire on terrible names. It actually was a terrible name. But that's their only flaw, making these guys a weak contender.

Mantis Warriors, Lamenters and Executioners-Heretics are never let off. Yeah, I know they were treated badly, but normally the Imperium would've obilterated them and then obilterated the dust. Thus these three Chapters are a moderate contender.

Dark Angels-Used to be good, but their secret is stupid and uncreative at all. Woop de doo, some of your Chapter fell to Chaos, SO DID EVERYONE ELSE ACCEPT THE GREY KNIGHTS. You aren't unique. Having their defining thing be something stupid makes the Dark Angels a strong contender. And the winner is....

-Loki- wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Many chapters have fallen to chaos.

You missed the point about them being the only loyal legion to have members turn traitor during the heresy. All of the other loyal legions were loyal to a man, but not the Dark Angels. It's their dirty secret, being the only first founding loyal legion to have harboured traitors during those times.

And with all secrets, it gets worse the longer you keep it. Having known, and not spoken about, having had traitors in their legion at the time of the heresy sounds really bad for a first founding legion.

I'm not a Dark Angels fan by any stretch, but that part of their story is pretty unique among the firsst founding legions.

But eventually every Chapter (which were created from the Legions) has had Traitors. At this point every single loyalist Chapter/former Legion has had Traitors, yet the Dark Angels still cry 'bout it and refuse to admit it. In addition that's their defining character trait; they've had Traitors. They're secret should've been better; maybe something about their Primarch or the C'tan or who knows what, but in anycase it should've been better.

"NO I DONT HAVE TRATORS!"
"It's okay, everyone has had Traitors at one point. Its not your fault."
"NO NONO! I NEVR HAD TRATORS AND NEVR WILL! IM JUST CRYING FOR NO REASON! THATS ALL!"

Phiasco is right. Rune Priests are psykers who falsely believe they are tapping into something besides the warp.

Pacific wrote:You need to read A Thousand Sons mate...

The Rune Priests may use different forms of ritual and have a different mindset in terms of what they are doing, but the powers they produce are still coming from the same place.

Exactly. Rune Priests basically use the Warp, but in a slightly different way and because it looks slightly different they are convinced it isn't the Warp.