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I know we have covered this somewhere before but i forget what we was said and i cannot find the faq with it in and also the search is giving me zero results fo some reason so...


flamers from a chimeras top hatch does it touch the hatch or the hull closest to the hatch

reason i ask is i went to fire one at a friend today and he was like (u can't hit your own gak with templates) and i thought yes you are right then i was like well if i put it on the closest part of the hull then it is gaining mega range ( was kinda iring forward and slightl right)

so in the end we decided i should just pivot(was the first thing i fired ) and just fire from the side so as not to swallow my tank in fire

The flame template is messured from the barrel of the gun itself, not the front of the model. Unless specific rules stat otherwise.

yes but from a fire point?

Eternalhero1983 wrote:The flame template is measured from the barrel of the gun itself, not the front of the model. Unless specific rules stat otherwise.

I forgot, if it is the flamers from the squad inside the then yes you will measure from the haul

so if i am firing them forward i measure closest part of the hull gaining me 2"?

croggy wrote:so if i am firing them forward i measure closest part of the hull gaining me 2"?

Correct

that seems unfair

croggy wrote:that seems unfair

That is because it is illegal.

You actually measure from the Fire point itself, not the hull, for passengers firing out of fire points. (P.66)

Also the Main Rules FaQ says:


Q: If a model fires a template weapon out of a vehicle,
will the vehicle be hit if it is underneath the template?
(p66)
A: No it will not be hit

croggy wrote:that seems unfair

It's also wrong.

The template is placed touching the firepoint, as range and LOS is determined from the firepoint, and nothing tells us to do that any differently for template weapons.

It's only open-topped vehicles that fire from any point on the hull.

thanks guys knew you'd come through for me

I know that is sounds unfair. The Rules what that the fire point is ether a hatch/gun slit where a passenger can fire from; however, since models by rules only state the amount of firing points, yet only show only hatches on the physical model not the gun slits the flame template is use to the hull of the model. This is the rule that was explained to me by both Gw Staff and Judges in tourniments.

Eternalhero1983 wrote:I know that is sounds unfair. The Rules what that the fire point is ether a hatch/gun slit where a passenger can fire from; however, since models by rules only state the amount of firing points, yet only show only hatches on the physical model not the gun slits the flame template is use to the hull of the model. This is the rule that was explained to me by both Gw Staff and Judges in tourniments.

Good thing it's measured from the firing point on a rhino IIRC it's the hatch

Eternalhero1983 wrote:I know that is sounds unfair. The Rules what that the fire point is ether a hatch/gun slit where a passenger can fire from; however, since models by rules only state the amount of firing points, yet only show only hatches on the physical model not the gun slits the flame template is use to the hull of the model. This is the rule that was explained to me by both Gw Staff and Judges in tourniments.

Then whoever explained that to you was wrong. If the hatch is the fire point, then firing is from that hatch. There is no rule that tells you to measure from the hull if the fire point is a hatch.

insaniak wrote:Then whoever explained that to you was wrong. If the hatch is the fire point, then firing is from that hatch. There is no rule that tells you to measure from the hull if the fire point is a hatch.

The Question was asked about a Chimera not a rhino. The Rhino's firing point are on the top hatches. the Chimera firing point is on the front hatch.

No, the Chimera's fire point is the "Top Hatch" if I recall correctly.

Eternalhero1983 wrote:The Question was asked about a Chimera not a rhino. The Rhino's firing point are on the top hatches. the Chimera firing point is on the front hatch.

The Chimera's fire point is the top hatch, same as the rhino.