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I've been playing annihilation games with friends and we are about to move on to random objective and deployment games so scoring units are new to me. I'm playing Orks. I would appreciate it if you would let me know if I have the list of ork scoring units down:

Boyz = Scoring
Gretchin = Scoring
Nobz (taken as a troops choice with warboss in the army) = Scoring
Nob Bikerz (taken as troops choice with warboss in the army) = Not Scoring
Deff Dread (taken as troops with a big mek in the army) = Not Scoring

Do I have this right? Have I missed any potential ork scoring units?

Thanks very much.

Why are the bottom two not scoring? I don't play orks, but aren't any troops choice scoring units? Do they specifically say they aren't?

Jimsolo wrote:Why are the bottom two not scoring? I don't play orks, but aren't any troops choice scoring units? Do they specifically say they aren't?

A deffdread is a vehicle. It doesn't matter if you take it as a troop choice. It can't score per the basic rule book's definition of a scoring unit. You would need to have a specific rule in your codex to make a vehicle scoring.

Nob Bikers can score if they are taken with a warboss. They are still a non-vehicle troops choice.

Thanks for the replies. I was mistakenly counting bikerz as vehicles but I see now that they are not. So add nob bikerz taken as troops with a warboss in the army as a scoring unit. Excellent! Are there any other possible scoring units that I have missed?

Thanks again.

Normal warbikers count as scoring if you take wazdakka

On a side note, how cool would it be to have a 9 deffdread army? It would be awful, but could do some serious damage.

Good call, Hazard. I totally missed that one. After looking back over the named HQ choices in the codex I see that Ghazzy has the ability to take nobz as troops just like the generic warbosses do. So to update the list so far we have:

Boyz = Scoring
Gretchin = Scoring
Nobz (taken as troops with a warboss or Ghazghkull in the army) = Scoring
Nob Bikerz (taken as troops with a warboss or Ghazghkull in the army) = Scoring
Warbikerz (taken as troops with Wazdakka in the army) = Scoring
Deff Dread (taken as troops with a big mek in the army) = Not Scoring

Complete and accurate?
Thanks all.


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PraetorDave wrote:On a side note, how cool would it be to have a 9 deffdread army? It would be awful, but could do some serious damage.

Unfortunately a Big Mekk can only take 1 Deff Dread as troops, so I think the max would be 5 in a standard force org chart, but could still be fun to see/play!

I believe the only one you are missing are Meganobz, Ghazghkull and the Warboss can take them as troops as well.

Ah yes, meganobz! Mentally I was counting them as nobz but they do warrant a separate mentioning. Thanks again, Hazard!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/280663.page

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haendas wrote:Good call, Hazard. I totally missed that one. After looking back over the named HQ choices in the codex I see that Ghazzy has the ability to take nobz as troops just like the generic warbosses do. So to update the list so far we have:

Boyz = Scoring
Gretchin = Scoring
Nobz (taken as troops with a warboss or Ghazghkull in the army) = Scoring
Nob Bikerz (taken as troops with a warboss or Ghazghkull in the army) = Scoring
Warbikerz (taken as troops with Wazdakka in the army) = Scoring
Deff Dread (taken as troops with a big mek in the army) = Not Scoring

Complete and accurate?
Thanks all.

That is complete and accurate. It's also worth pointing out that a Trukk or Battlewagon purchased for a troop choice is also a troop choice, but is NOT scoring.

Grakmar wrote:
It's also worth pointing out that a Trukk or Battlewagon purchased for a troop choice is also a troop choice, but is NOT scoring.

Does this mean that a Unit of 12 Boyz in a Trukk occupies 2 Troops spots on a standard force organization chart? Was I breaking the force org chart last week when I took 4 units of boyz and 4 trukks?

PraetorDave wrote:On a side note, how cool would it be to have a 9 deffdread army? It would be awful, but could do some serious damage.

It would be very cool, but not possible.

Each Big Mek lets you take one Deffdredd as a troop choice, so you'd need to be able to take 6 Big Meks.

you can run a 5 Deff dredd army with support though, or a 2 dredd, 9 kan army




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haendas wrote:

Grakmar wrote:
It's also worth pointing out that a Trukk or Battlewagon purchased for a troop choice is also a troop choice, but is NOT scoring.

Does this mean that a Unit of 12 Boyz in a Trukk occupies 2 Troops spots on a standard force organization chart? Was I breaking the force org chart last week when I took 4 units of boyz and 4 trukks?

It's a dedicated transport bought for the unit. It doesn't take up a FOC spot for the trukk.

No, it's the dedicated transport for the troops, so it only counts as 1 troop choice. What he's saying is that, even though the Trukk is the dedicated transport for the boyz unit, it cannot capture objectives alone. It needs the unit of boyz in it to capture the objective. It can contest objectives however.

haendas wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:

PraetorDave wrote:On a side note, how cool would it be to have a 9 deffdread army? It would be awful, but could do some serious damage.

Unfortunately a Big Mekk can only take 1 Deff Dread as troops, so I think the max would be 5 in a standard force org chart, but could still be fun to see/play!

You could, however, use the dread mob army from IA:8. It allows for 5x3 dreads as troops(one unit of boyz is mandatory), 3x5 kanz as fast attack, 2x mekka dreads as HQ and 3x mega dread as heavy support. Let's get stompin'!