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Must have the defiler
HQ
Deamon prince w wings & mark of khorne 140

Troops
8 berserkers w skull champion w power fist in rino w combi melta 253
8 berserkers w skull champion w power fist in rino w combi melta 253
8 berserkers w skull champion w power fist in rino w combi melta 253

Heavy support
Defiler w twin-linked lascannon 170
5 havocs w 4 lascannons 215
5 havocs w 4 lascannons 215

seems solide, but would try to put in some obliterators or chosen maybe.

Why not field a Land Raider? Wont you have issues assaulting out of the Rhinos?

It seems good. I would second fielding a land raider though.

I'm not a fan of the havocs. You could get 5 oblits plus change instead and they have a lot more weapon options obviously. Other than that, may the blood shed be plentiful.

Oooh nasty. If I ever start chaos, this is my sort of army. But I agree, drop some havocs and add in a raider instead of a rhino. Oblits would be a good idea too.

If I drop the 1 squad of havocs for a land raider But people say that landraiders are not worth the points.

I would like my havocs to take carecof tanks wich oblits can't do quite as well


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How about droping the lascannon on the defiler cos he can't fire it w his battle cannon, instead I'll give him 2 more close combat weapons to make it more khorne!

What do you think of droping 2 of the power fist champs & taking a dreadnought w 2 close combat weapons???

Land raiders are only bad If you field a single one. By themselves they draw a lot of fire and die quickly.

I like this list but here is what I would suggest:

Drop the squads of havocs and replace them with any combination of two of the following: squad of 2x oblit, vindicator or a defiler.

Also dropping the LC from the defiler will save you some points too. you will be firing with the BC all the time so spending the points on extra firepower is really a waste.

That will leave you with 150pts in the bank.

with that you could get another hq, the dreadnaught you were thinking about, some squads of lesser daemons, or you can fill out your zerker squads.

Trim a lil fat and get some more meat, it's the name of the game

Concerning those havocs...no I'm not going to suggest obliterators. Havocs have much more firepower, provided you give them the right options. Lascannons are extremely expensive for havoc squads. At the points level you're playing and with the number of anti-tank weapons in your army, unless you're playing against mech guard, you are wasting your points. Missile Launchers are a much more versatile option. Also, consider a defiler with 2 extra CC arms, rather than a TL lascannon.

So how's this
Chaos list 1500
HQ
Deamon prince w wings & mark of khorne 140

Troops
8 berserkers w skull champion w power fist in rino w combi melta 253
8 berserkers w skull champion w power fist in rino w combi melta 253
8 berserkers w skull champion w power fist in rino w combi melta 253

Heavy support
Defiler w 2 dreadnought closecombat weapons 150
5 havocs w 4 missile launchers 155
5 havocs w 4 missile launchers 155

that leaves me w 140 pts now I could buy
deamon prince w wings & khorne (solid)
or
5 raptors w champ w pf (not sure)
or
10 lesser deamons (no clue as to how effective)
wich will give me more skulls 4 the skull throne???

RUN KHARN.

I'd go for a second DP. It makes sense to take two for target saturation.

If you take the daemons, you need to get personal icons on the zerker squads. Otherwise DSing may really mess you up.

I would go so far as to say that if anything in CSMs list is taken that can be DSed, icons become a must automatically.

Drop the Defiler for another DP.

I become immensely sad when I see any khornate list not running Kharn. But I would also recommend dreads with 2x CCWs. I can't see a true Khornate build being too competitive but it would be crazy fun.

OMG karn!!!! I'm new to chaos but just read his rules. What a bruser for his points, the betrayer is a down side but I'll just split him from the berzerkers when they dissembark!

So it's either karn or double cc dread?


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Or a lascannon dread to go w the havocs and aid as a counter punch. Fire frenzy=1 dead havoc=not so bad

Hey, I'm a friend of mcewan86 and would like to know how to beat him w eldar
here is my standerd 1500 list
HQ
eldrad

troops
10 dire avengers Inc exarch w blade storm in wave serpent w missile launcher 267
10 dire avengers Inc exarch w blade storm in wave serpent w missile launcher 267 

Fast attack
Vyper w shuriken cannon 50
Vyper w shuriken cannon 50

Heavy support 
Falcon w brigt lance 145
Falcon w brigt lance 145 
5 dark reapers Inc exarch w tempest launcher 207