Vallejo paints??

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**kitch102**

Hey all,

Thinking of trying out some of the vallejo range after hearing how much better / more cost effective they are than GW paints. Any one know what would be a good match up to Liche Purple and Shining Gold?

Other colours I use a lot are fortress grey and scorpion green, though these should be simple enough to marry up... right?

Cheers,

Kitch102

**Lomar4976**

You could always give http://colors.silicon-dragons.com/full_line.php a try... thats not always a perfect match, but it reccomends what mixes can be used to get a decent match, or whatever like for like matches exist... just choose the range of paints from the drop down menu (in this case, GW citadel colour and Vallejo Game colour (or Vallejo model colour)

(though just be wary, some of the colours are pretty wacky - it reccomends dead white from Vallejo to correspond to space wolves grey from GW for instance)

**Grimtuff**

Coat D'arms paints will generally give a more 100% match as they used to produce the old GW paint range. They're still available, just renamed. See here.

**kitch102**

That's cool cheers dudes. Are both companies metallics easier to use? I like the colour I get from GW's SG, but I find it's too watery. I can counter the problem but only by proper slapping it on, hence looking to try other companies ranges...

Cheers

**MrH**

I use Vallejo, they're cheaper than GW and the bottles are fantastic.

**AustonT**

Scorpy green is...a little different. It's been a couple years since I have used it , so it may have changed. It is also a little thin.

**Grimtuff**

The only metallic I've used from Vallejo is the gold. It appears to be a bit thicker than GW metallics, mainly as Vallejo paints are heavy on the pigment, so you don't need to use as much (yet I always squeeze out too much

), you will need to water it down and do a couple of coats but it gives a good solid finish.

This is Vallejo gold on my Tau

The Coat D'arms ones are simply the old GW ones (the ones that were the tall hex flip tops) so will be good too.

**kitch102**

What the feth is that beast in the back? That's awesome man!

Liking that gold, is there just the one or are there various shades?

Cheers to you to Auston, would you say that GW's foundations / colours are better? honestly, ot's just the metallics that I'm having trouble with, just thought I'd experiment

**J.Black**

Never used the Vallejo matallice myself... but i can say from experience that their Game Colour range is much richer than the GW equivalents.

The GW foundation paints are nice if they fit with your colour scheme, but most of the Vallejo equivalents can be painted straight onto a model without the need for a base coat anyway

I'd imagine their metallic paints follow the same trend.

**AustonT**

Eh...there really isn't a great light green in any line. Figure it's more yellow than blue, and in the case of scorpion green it's a very light yellow. So it's coverage properties are iffy at best.
P3 or coat d'arms are go to brands for thicker opaque colors

**MajorTom11**

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Paint_Range_Compatibility_Chart

Love my Vallejo for 'regular' paints. Love GW for foundations. Love Vallejo Inks. Love Secret Weapon Washes. Love Vallejo for AB and finally love the Vallejo military lines for more restrained and realistic color choices.

In other words, I would 100% endorse Vallejo, great paints imo. Only advice I would give is to get get your hands on some lave rock balls or small glass beads to put in the bottles as agitators. The pigments do collect at the bottom if you leave them long enough, but it is easily solved.

**AustonT**

Smaller glass marbles just barely slide in the mouth too, work great.
I should clarify I dont NOT recommend Vallejo paints, they are fantastic. It is my personal opinion that the Model Color Line is vastly superior to the Game Color line. Model air is a fantastic product as well, and Im excited to try their new primers too.
Restricting yourself to any one brand leaves you victim to thier shortfalls, any brand has them. expanding your horizons also lets you be more versatile.

**IK-Painter**

The Vallejo Game Color Metallics work well, but are a tad thick - for best results use two thinned coats.

I have heard so many good things about the Vallejo Liquid Gold range - but because my FLGS screwed up my order I'll have to wait at least till next week to try them out. They seem to be a little more hassle to work with, but the results are supposed to be phenomenal.

Cheers,

IK-Painter

**winterdyne**

Vallejo Liquid Gold are brilliant, as are the Vallejo Model Air paints.

**IK-Painter**

winterdyne wrote:Vallejo Liquid Gold are brilliant, as are the Vallejo Model Air paints.

+1

The Model Air Metallics are great too - much smoother than any other metallic paint I've worked with. You can mix Chaos Black and Vallejo Model Air "Steel" 1:1 for an awesome basecoat for all your silvery metals.

Cheers,

IK-Painter

**Brother Azul**

Ive just started using Vallejo myself and and so far i cant find a fault with them. I have found though that the lighter colours like elf flesh can require an obscene amount of shaking if you haven't used them in a while. I would also recommend Vallejo purely for the dropper bottles.

**kenshin620**

Hmm while I have Game Color myself, what is the difference between the other vallejo brands?

**IK-Painter**

Game Color: Bright colors, very similar to GW paints (both in tone and name)

Model Color: Much more variety in colors, quality can be better than similar tone in the Game Color range, more of a "realistic" feel to the colors, paints are thicker than Game Colors

Model Air: Used for airbrushing, but can also be applied with a normal brush. Finely ground pigment makes for a very liquid but also very opaque color - the metallics are awesome

Panzer Aces: Colors mainly for realistic WW2 modeling, designed in corporation with Panzer Aces Magazine

Liquid Gold: Alcohol based metallics with real metal pigments - supposed to be one of the best metallic paints you can get

Hope this helps :-),

IK-Painter

**Praxiss**

Heres a link to a Vallejo vs GW conversion chart:

http://www.evicerator.com/vallejotogwconversiontable.htm

**AustonT**

Model Color is older and designed to the specifications of historical miniature modelers. The colors are often of better quality than their Game Color brethren. There is a wider selection and they mix well with each other.
Game color is Vallejo's copy of popular GW paints with a little bit of quality sacrificed from their VMC line to achieve a close consistency with GWs.
Panzer Aces are basically just VMC with specific colors developed for the magazine.
Model air metallics are pro...so tired of thick boltgun from GW. I apply them with a brush. They make airbrushing quick and easy.