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If you buy any Kroot model from Krootox to the forgeworld Gnarlocs(?) they have the same look, the avian bird look. But if you read any fluff they are sure to tell you how they can evolve and change. I read one novel, fear the alien i think, where they had ape kroot. So why are they so fluff heavy changers but when it comes to the model range all the same?

Because making a thousand and one different models is expensive.

why not just change one of the ranges like the hounds or the ox to something else
Its just they shove that in your head but this is very hard to model. you cant just add a ork arm and it look coherent.
They have the mule kroot, the goads, the Great Knarloc, the tank Knarloc, hounds, ox, Kroot. For master morphers they all look extremely similar



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and riders too

The avian look is just the Kroots thing.

Notice even Tyranids, far more able to have divergant appearance, still have some common traits.

It's mainly due to what insaniak said - making so many variations would be far too costly, but it's also a way to make the models easily recognisable. Beak and head quills? Kroot. 6 limbs, long tongues and seemingly the habit of leaving their mouths open? Tyranid.

I bet if the space marines had this ablity and not the kroot they would be tripping over them self to produce Chapter master with nid tentcle mace or orc str arms.
By the way if they didnt want to make a lot of minis we would still be at SM vs CSM


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The recognition factor sounds reasonable but I want my f ing ape kroot

Mal the Wolf wrote:They have the mule kroot, the goads, the Great Knarloc, the tank Knarloc, hounds, ox, Kroot. For master morphers they all look extremely similar

That's somewhat necessary, though, to keep the range looking consistent. Otherwise, you just wind up with a mismash of different designs that don't look like they belong together.


I see it as along the same lines as the 'Aliens' movie Aliens. Their specific attributes vary depending on what they have shared their genes with... but they're still recognisably the same base species.

Mal the Wolf wrote:I bet if the space marines had this ablity and not the kroot they would be tripping over them self to produce Chapter master with nid tentcle mace or orc str arms.
By the way if they didnt want to make a lot of minis we would still be at SM vs CSM


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The recognition factor sounds reasonable but I want my f ing ape kroot

That's one of the weakest arguements in a long time. Also did you even play rogue trader? There was more than those two armies.

I meant that as this would be the easiest to produce not who s the oldest army. By still be at I was infering how i started

Mal the Wolf wrote:I meant that as this would be the easiest to produce not who s the oldest army. By still be at I was infering how i started

No offense, but you don't seem to understand the amount it costs to make a new plastic mold.

There's a reason there's a lot of Space Marine plastics outside of the fact that they sell - they're all the same base models, and it's very easy to simply add details to them and not lose inter-range compatibility. All those Blood Angels plastics can be used on vanilla Marines, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, etc.

Making a few new plastic sprues to add different looking Kroot simply wouldn't get the monetary return needed to make the investment a good idea, since those new plastic sprues would only apply to one squad in a single army. It's not about being Space Marine, it's about monetary return.

I get ya. It would cost maybe a mill to adjust them. But we are talking about a worldwide company makeing god knows what. They dont have a hard time churning out fine cast one offs or adding to DE. The kroot did have a codex. Im just frustrated that i have bland kroot

Mal the Wolf wrote:I get ya. It would cost maybe a mill to adjust them. But we are talking about a worldwide company makeing god knows what. They dont have a hard time churning out fine cast one offs or adding to DE. The kroot did have a codex. Im just frustrated that i have bland kroot

Unfortunately, if you find them bland, you're going to be disappointed. The Avian look is the 'kroot look' GW are going with. It's recogniseable and gives them a framework to work on. You'll notice that, while DE are getting a lot of attention (not having any new models for over 10 years makes them something people will be interested in, and the whole range is being redone because of it), they all have the same 'look'. Even the Court of the Archon, aside from Ur Ghuls, have the Dark Eldar look. Even Sslyths. GW pick a look they want for a race, and apply it to the entire race. Kroot look avian.

I don't understand what the problem is.

Kroot are just one unit with upgrades now. They have a nice kit plus several old metal kits for this. They even have someone at Forge World liking the Kroot, who made some more units (plus the event only bird). They even have a small mercenary list and a 5th edition fan-made Kodex Kroot with rich background where you get good advice on how to scratchbuild a whole variety of Kroot-models. Kroot are for conversion lovers, not for "I want everything now ... I pay taxes for that" folks. If you want new plastic kits for some niche unit, pay GW 10000 pound for the mould and they might consider it. Otherwise go to the Kroot website http://z8.invisionfree.com/KompletelyKroot/ and have fun. And all Kroot-relatives having the distinctive Kroot look is an advantage, not a disadvantage. If you want an ape not looking like a Kroot, take an ape or a Jokaero.

That said there is the slight chance of Kroot getting a new plastic kit with the next Codex.

I take everything you say as fact, Kroot Hawk. When I just started dakka, along with wargaming but not painting. You gave me several thoughts on tactics that i use every game, thank you. But I have to disagree here. You go to FLGS and say kroot, first thing you here is they eat their dead. Why adapt and evolve. One of the Cain novel also backs this up. They can change colors naturally and speak perfect common. They change shape consuming the prey.


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that sounded a holeish, Love ya work. I feel so bad Im gonna post my only funny converted model

I call him F***nut and his brother Scuzzlebutt. Brothers Kroot. Sorry Focus is bad quick pic

Mal the Wolf wrote:The recognition factor sounds reasonable but I want my f ing ape kroot

Ask, and you shall receive.

You don't seem to have a very good grasp on how the kroots' adaptation abilities work. It's not like if they find themselves in a situation where they need some serious muscle that they can spend the weekend chowing down on Ork-burgers and be seriously ripped and musclebound by Monday. It's a slower process, and one that shapers try and keep watch over to make sure that their kindred don't end up going down the same road that led to the krootox and kroot hounds, non-sapient beasts who've lost the intelligence to guide their own evolution anymore.