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Company Command Squad-4xPlasma Guns, Chimera (Hull Flamer, Multi-Laser Turret)-165


Troops

Veteran Squad-3xPlasmaGun, Chimera (Hull Flamer, Multi-Laser Turret)-165

Veteran Squad-3xPlasmaGun, Chimera (Hull Flamer, Multi-Laser Turret)-165

Veteran Squad-3xMeltagun-100

Veteran Squad-3xMeltagun-100

Fast Attack
1xVendetta-Heavy Bolters-140

1xVendetta-Heavy Bolters-140

Heavy Support

2xExecutioners-2xPlasma Cannons,2xHeavy Bolters-460

2xHydra Flak Tanks, Hull Mounted Heavy Bolters-150

Manticore Rocket launcher, Heavy Bolter-160

Total-1750

If you get rid of all those heavy bolter upgrades especially the ones on the vendettas you could free up some points and get the melta vets in chimeras. By doing that it allows you to use the vendettas more as gun boats and allows you to use the melta vets much better ie tank killing, objective holding, etc.


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Mind you that isn't a lot of points available and you may have find to points elsewhere so it may not even work now that I think about it.

remove one executioner, 10 plasmablast in 1 turn looks awsome, but it is to much overkill.

you could take an extra veteran squad with melta's and an extra vendetta for it!

Unless you dropped one of the executioner tanks.

nevermind imperial commander beat me to it

Standard mech Guard list TBH.

I don't like the melta Vets in the Vendettas. Reason is 'Dettas should be at the back of the board shooting and last minute contesting objectives. You will have to move your Vendettas forward to get the meltas into range, this also puts the Vendetta (which is a priority target) into range for melta amongst other things. I could give those melta Vets Chimeras instead.

Hydras are fine so is the Manticore, but I'd take the Manticore in pairs. The Executioner is meh and expensive and you've loaded it with extras which make it cost even more.

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Company Command Squad-4xPlasma Guns, Chimera (Hull Flamer, Multi-Laser Turret)-165

Troops

Veteran Squad-3xPlasmaGun, Chimera (Hull Flamer, Multi-Laser Turret), Demolitions-195

Veteran Squad-3xPlasmaGun, Chimera (Hull Flamer, Multi-Laser Turret), Demolitions-195

Veteran Squad-3xMeltagun, Chimera (Hull Flamer, Multi-Laser Turret), Demolitions-185

Veteran Squad-3xMeltagun, Chimera (Hull Flamer, Multi-Laser Turret), Demolitions-185

Fast Attack
1xVendetta-Heavy Bolters-140

1xVendetta-Heavy Bolters-140

Heavy Support

1xExecutioners-1xPlasma Cannons,1x Hull Mounted Heavy Bolter-230

2xHydra Flak Tanks, Hull Mounted Heavy Bolters-150

Manticore Rocket launcher, Heavy Bolter-160

Total-1750

Drop all of the Demolitions, as your paying 30pts for a 20pt peice of equipment that you will never get close enough to use...

Drop the sponsons on the executioner... if your moving, you can only fire one other weapon besides the turret weapon. If your standing still, it is pretty hard to get both to fire on the target... and LRBTs that don't move get auto hits on that AV 10 rear armor in CC... and that is not that hard to do.

Drop the HBs on the Vendettas... the HBs will not effect armor and you have no other long range AT besides your Vendettas. You will be spending the entire game fire LCs at vehicles. I doubt you will have the luxury to unload HBs and the LCs into a infantry squad.

A big weakness to your list is your opponent is 4 shots away from preventing you from winning, due to your low amount of scoring troops.

Another big weakness is that all of your troops want to be within 6"-12" of the enemy, nullifying your Manticore. Besides, your manticore is undefended, so your very vulnerable to DSing/DPing/Outflanking units.

Another note, you do realize that 2/3s of the games are objective based, right? Now your rushing with 4 Chimeras because you have to hold the 5th one back.

Your Executioner is the wrong tank for the job. You want something agressive that runs up with your Chimeras to draw in fire, probably something like a Demolisher. But your so light on Scoring troops that I don't think you can afford it. It is either change tanks and drop the Manticore to get 2 more vet squads (with the other point reductions I mentioned) or dump the tank.

A Big Change of Tune Army Type Wise

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CCS-4xPlasma Guns-Chimera (Hull Flamer, Multi-Laser Turret)-165

CCS-4xPlasma Guns-Chimera (Hull Flamer, Multi-Laser Turret)-165

Elite

Marbo-65

Troops

Infantry Platoon

PCS-1xFLAMER-30

Infantry Squad-Lascannon-70

Infantry Squad-Lascannon-70

Heavy Weapons Team-3xLascannons-105

Heavy Weapons Team-3xLascannons-105

Heavy Weapons Team-3xLascannons-105

Heavy Weapons Team-3xLascannons-105

Veteran Squad-3xMeltaguns-100

Veteran Squad-3xMeltaguns-100

Fast Attack

Valkyrie-Multiple Rocket Pods-130

Valkyrie-Multiple Rocket Pods-130

Heavy Support

Leman Russ Battle Tank-150

Leman Russ Battle Tank-150

Total-1750

Yeah... quite the change.

So why have the CCSs in Chimeras? Dropping the Chimeras for Creed might be a better option for 4 Orders a turn at 24". You will want Kell or a Lord Commissar for those HWSs.

Are your PISs in seperate units or blobed? You might want to blob them up, get a Commissar and bubble wrap artillery.

I would drop the LCs from the PIS due to the BS 3. ACs would be a better buy as two 50% shots give you a better chance to hit with at least 1 shot.

In a gunline list, /now/ you probably want a Manticore or two and a brace of Hydras. This is also a spot for your Executioner.

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CCS-2xPlasma Guns, Colour Sergeant Kell, Lord Castellen Creed Chimera (Hull Flamer, Multi-Laser Turret), Medi Pack-340

Troops

Infantry Platoon

PCS-30

Infantry Squad-Lascannon, Power Weapon-80

Infantry Squad-Lascannon, Power Weapon, Commissar (Power Weapon)-125

Infantry Squad-Lascannon, Power Weapon-80

Infantry Squad-Lascannon, Power Weapon-80

Infantry Squad-Lascannon, Power Weapon-80

Power Blob Total- 445

Heavy Weapons Team-3xLascannons-105

Heavy Weapons Team-3xLascannons-105

Heavy Weapons Team-3xLascannons-105

Veteran Squad-3xMeltaguns-100

Veteran Squad-3xMeltaguns-100

Fast Attack

Valkyrie-Multiple Rocket Pods-130

Valkyrie-Multiple Rocket Pods-130

Heavy Support

Leman Russ Executioner-190

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Thanks for your advice so far BLKTom

What do you think of this?

Hmm that's a much different list from the first one.

Firstly I would drop Kell, he's not worth it. Creed is where it's at. I would also their Chimera because all you're doing is keeping them bubblewrapped up inside it, it's going to attract anti tank to the Chimera as you have limited armour.

Valkyries are cool.

The single Executioner will be singled out. I'd get some artillery for hordes as that's something you will struggle with. Consider a Colossus or Manticore.