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I am working on a rules project and would like some input from the YMDC denizens.

There are two camps on this issue regarding how GW has worded the rules entry. One camp has the singular use of "a" is meaning that out of a Land Speeder Squadron, only one may be ugraded to a Typhoon.

The other camp insists that each Land Speeder in the squadron is "a" Land Speeder and therefore eligible to be upgraded to a Typhoon. They support their argument that the points is set on a points per model cost and that the German and French codexes list them as a plural upgrade as well.

I am looking for the pros and cons of each argument as presented here. Feel free to take a stance and make your points in clear and concise arguments. "SW are OP derpaderp" is not a valid argument. I just need a sampling of the pros and cons of each stance from you folks.

I don't see any reason that they shouldn't be able to(though the wording might be confusing), The other types of marines are not restricted in this way and though I know the space puppies are special I don't see it as OP in any way to let it work like other speeders.

With the other language codexs having it in plural form I think it was just poor wording on the codex writers end(what a shocker).

TheAvengingKnee wrote:I don't see any reason that they shouldn't be able to(though the wording might be confusing), The other types of marines are not restricted in this way and though I know the space puppies are special I don't see it as OP in any way to let it work like other speeders.

With the other language codexs having it in plural form I think it was just poor wording on the codex writers end(what a shocker).

Well what had kind of driven me is that if it could be widely accepted that Land Speeder Squadrons can consist of multiple Typhoons, maybe the prevalence of relying on massed Long Fangs could be eliminated.

Brother Ramses wrote:

TheAvengingKnee wrote:I don't see any reason that they shouldn't be able to(though the wording might be confusing), The other types of marines are not restricted in this way and though I know the space puppies are special I don't see it as OP in any way to let it work like other speeders.

With the other language codexs having it in plural form I think it was just poor wording on the codex writers end(what a shocker).

Well what had kind of driven me is that if it could be widely accepted that Land Speeder Squadrons can consist of multiple Typhoons, maybe the prevalence of relying on massed Long Fangs could be eliminated.

What's more likely to happen is even more missiles, not fewer longfangs.

It would seem to me like they can all be Typhoons. I believe the "a" bit is referring to the bullet-point preceding it, which says that any Land Speeder may take "x or y" upgrade.

Unit1126PLL wrote:

Brother Ramses wrote:

TheAvengingKnee wrote:I don't see any reason that they shouldn't be able to(though the wording might be confusing), The other types of marines are not restricted in this way and though I know the space puppies are special I don't see it as OP in any way to let it work like other speeders.

With the other language codexs having it in plural form I think it was just poor wording on the codex writers end(what a shocker).

Well what had kind of driven me is that if it could be widely accepted that Land Speeder Squadrons can consist of multiple Typhoons, maybe the prevalence of relying on massed Long Fangs could be eliminated.

What's more likely to happen is even more missiles, not fewer longfangs.

The math is not there to build an effective list with both.

Also, missiles are not the problem, it is split fire that I see most people whining and crying about. Split fire is a force multiplier. Without it, they are just 5 missiles.

In Codex:Space Wolves, every other entry where you are limited to one upgrade, it says "one model may...". I think that means any LS can do the Typhoon upgrade. It just can't try to take both upgrades as the Typhoon upgrade is listed as alternatively to the other weapon additions.

Homer