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Manhatten, KS

The orc faq breaks the rules clearly listed in the rulebook!

FAQ: Q: If an Independent Character on a warbike joins
Snikrot’s unit before the game starts, can they still turn
up using the Ambush special rule? (p62)
A: Yes.

Rulebook: Under bock USR and Characters it says outflank and infiltrate are both lost when a character joins a unit without those rules.

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Oakland, CA -- U.S.A.

Ambush is neither infiltrate nor outflank, though?

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Syracuse, NY

A good guide to go by is that specific rules have precedence over general rules. That excerpt in the BRB is a general rule for USR's, Ambush is a specific rule and GW clarified in their ruling that an IC is joined to a unit before deployment.

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Manhatten, KS

Either way I guess one less warboss on the field for at minimum 3 turns with my OOF makes me happier!

So that one biker can move on from any board edge separating immediately for 12">?

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Manchester, NH

The rules also specify that he can't separate on the turn they arrive.

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Not sure why it is a minimum of 3 turns...? Although with 5+, 4+, 3+ the odds are in your favor.

They key is do not leave multi-charge options or if you do put them away from objectives in a corner so the whole unit is essentially 'out of the game'

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Tomb King wrote:So that one biker can move on from any board edge separating immediately for 12">?

The rulebok FAQ clarifies that he can't leave the unit on the turn they move onto the board.

 
   
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Manhatten, KS

insaniak wrote:
Tomb King wrote:So that one biker can move on from any board edge separating immediately for 12">?

The rulebok FAQ clarifies that he can't leave the unit on the turn they move onto the board.


here is where it gets fishy. Can the biker charge something say 8+ inches away and the rest of the squad just stay in coherency moving 6"?

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Manchester, NH

I'm not sure what you're talking about. All the normal assault rules apply to the unit. Bikes assault 6" like infantry.

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Snikrot and kommandos + ghaz coming in behind you is nasty @.@
   
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Manchester, NH

Big gamble for the Orks, though, as it means there's a 50/50 chance that Ghaz won't even be on the table until turn 3 or later.

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Manhatten, KS

Mannahnin wrote:I'm not sure what you're talking about. All the normal assault rules apply to the unit. Bikes assault 6" like infantry.


Thinking of beast lol my bad!


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Mannahnin wrote:Big gamble for the Orks, though, as it means there's a 50/50 chance that Ghaz won't even be on the table until turn 3 or later.


Something that has me very happy!

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Tomb King wrote:here is where it gets fishy. Can the biker charge something say 8+ inches away and the rest of the squad just stay in coherency moving 6"?

Even if bikes could charge more than 6", a unit is restricted to moving at the speed of its slowest model. So long as the biker is joined to the squad, he's only moving 6" just like them.

 
   
 
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