Ideas for the Necron codex

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**IXBEHEMOTHXI**

Just thinking about how the new Necron codex could be improved and to be tweaked to fit in around the 5th edition rule book. so here's my proposed rules:

Wraiths should have rending or power weapons at extra cost
the monolith should be able to use the power matrix to teleport itself 12 inches
tomb spyders should have the same effect as the ressurection orb at 6 inches
the lord should be able to chose a numbered limit of wargear (such as 3 pieces of wargear)
pariahs with either an invulnerable save or 2+ armour for reduced strength or toughness
upgrades for more units (such as a gauss blaster for every 10 necron warriors)
immortals should also be a leader upgrade for warriors
most units reduced in points (only very slightly)
furious charge for flayed ones
possible immunity to poison weapons in certain units
higher weapon skill and initiative for the lord
phylactery increases we'll be back to 3+ and its original effect
now for the downgrades
monolith 4+ -5+ invulnerable save

monolith reduced to armour 13 all round
maybe replace we'll be back with feel no pain
only warriors and immortals count towards phase out
scarabs only have 2 wounds instead of 3
phase shifter 5+ invulnerable save
phase out possibly increased to a third of counting units remain
flame weapons get an extra strength against necrons e.g flamer str 4 ap 5 increased to str 5 ap 5

well there you go, feel free to comment and advise on other rules!

**Blackhoof**

i think phase out should be changed to a unit-by-unit thing, or it happens whenever a necron unit below 25% fails a leadershp test.

**Your Friend Doctor Robert**

Blackhoof wrote:i think phase out should be changed to a unit-by-unit thing, or it happens whenever a necron unit fails a leadershp test.

fix'd. Give them Stubborn, though, to compensate. And roll a D6, it only happens on a 1 or 2

Make the Monolith and C'tan Apocalypse-Only Models. Buff them both. Add some sort of transport.

**Jwalker52**

Keep the monolyth how it is and change flaid ones to troops.

**Smitty0305**

well the new necron codex is being printed, so I think this is moderatly pointless lol

**Tekeino**

Smitty0305 wrote:well the new necron codex is being printed, so I think this is moderatly pointless lol

Whats your source for that?

people have been saying that there was gonna be a new necron book for the past two or three years, so forgive me if i am sceptical.

**woodbok**

Tekeino wrote:
Smitty0305 wrote:well the new necron codex is being printed, so I think this is moderatly pointless lol

Whats your source for that?

people have been saying that there was gonna be a new necron book for the past two or three years, so forgive me if i am sceptical.

Look at kroothawks rumour roundup. Necrons for november/october time, methinks.

**Jwalker52**

They did takeit off the website.

**CthuluIsSpy**

IXBEHEMOTHXI wrote:Just thinking about how the new Necron codex could be improved and to be tweaked to fit in around the 5th edition rule book. so here's my proposed rules:

Wraiths should have rending or power weapons at extra cost yes
the monolith should be able to use the power matrix to teleport itself 12 inches Maybe not. I mean it can already deepstrike. BUT it would be pretty cool if a necron unit can teleport to the monolith, a la DoW
tomb spyders should have the same effect as the ressurection orb at 6 inches It would make sense fluff wise, though I would just have it at 12" and reroll all failed WBB
the lord should be able to chose a numbered limit of wargear (such as 3 pieces of wargear) Nah. Crons are alredy limited as they are
pariahs with either an invulnerable save or 2+ armour for reduced strength or toughness Keep the S and T, give em WWB and more survivability. They are meant to be the next generation of crons after all
upgrades for more units (such as a gauss blaster for every 10 necron warriors) interesting...
immortals should also be a leader upgrade for warriors Exactly what I've been thinking
most units reduced in points (only very slightly) Well, no. Considering that they'll be buffed up the wazzoo, you'll be lucky they won't change
furious charge for flayed ones LOL! I find that extremely funny, considering robots can't feel anger
possible immunity to poison weapons in certain units Definately. Maybe the War Construct rule, with the stalkers
higher weapon skill and initiative for the lord YES! They are supposed to be ancient warriors with thousands of years of experiance. The rules should reconize this
phylactery increases we'll be back to 3+ and its original effect A bit much...
now for the downgrades
monolith 4+ -5+ invulnerable save

monolith reduced to armour 13 all round No
maybe replace we'll be back with feel no pain Again, no. Too...ordinary
only warriors and immortals count towards phase out Sounds resonable, I guess
scarabs only have 2 wounds instead of 3 No, because they are swarms. Swarms = lots of guys, lots of wounds
phase shifter 5+ invulnerable save No. Should be it make the Armor save invulnerable, considering how its basically what wraiths already have
phase out possibly increased to a third of counting units remain
flame weapons get an extra strength against necrons e.g flamer str 4 ap 5 increased to str 5 ap 5

well there you go, feel free to comment and advise on other rules!

I think that to represent that necrons are made from Living Metal (you know, a substence that reacts accordingly against attacks), that succesful wounds must be rerolled against them. For vehicles, keep it as it is.
More Vehicles.
More Guns.
More killing power (seriously, for a race who exists to kill everything, they're pretty bad at it).
Give em relentless...but take away run.
Make Warscythes like the callidus assassin's C'tan phase knife, for consistency's sake. (Power Weapon, inflicts instant death no matter the toughness)

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Blackhoof wrote:i think phase out should be changed to a unit-by-unit thing, or it happens whenever a necron unit below 25% fails a leadershp test.

Yeah, that's much better than what we have. Sounds more faithful to the fluff too.

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Blackhoof wrote:
Make the Monolith and C'tan Apocalypse-Only Models. Buff them both. Add some sort of transport.

No, just..no. Why? Well, what does almost every Necron player have in his army? A monolith. By making it an apoc only thing, he'll be forced to buy some absurdly expensive thing to compensate for that equally expensive pyramid that'll never see another game because, really, how often does one play an apoc game?

It'll be the carnifex debacle all over again. Except more annoying.

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Jwalker52 wrote:Keep the monolyth how it is and change flaid ones to troops.

Exactly.

**Anpu-adom**

Waste of time and energy. It's likely that the new Necron plastics have been finished for months (has been rumored), the Codex has been printed, and they are working on the Finecast additions to the Necron line (after the tons of redo's...)

**Scabeiathrax**

It will be interesting to see what beefy rules GW come up with for the new codex. If GW follow on suit then we will probably find ourselves facing a Monolith with armour 15!! lol

**CthuluIsSpy**

Scabeiathrax wrote:It will be interesting to see what beefy rules GW come up with for the new codex. If GW follow on suit then we will probably find ourselves facing a Monolith with armour 15!! lol

Nah..that'll be silly.
A monolith with WBB on the otherhand...

**master of ordinance**

isnt the new Necron codex being released soon?
just a point.

**CthuluIsSpy**

master of ordinance wrote:isnt the new Necron codex being released soon?
just a point.

Yes, theoretically. But no one really knows. They said that it would come in Dec 2009, and Dec 2008, and Aug 2011...and so on.

**Jwalker52**

Yea I'm kinda tierd of the non affermitive release dates from GW.

**salix_fatuus**

I so fear that Matt (cursed) Ward is the one who wrote the new Necron codex since he will most certainly f*ck up the codex like all others he defiled...

**KilroyKiljoy**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Scabeiathrax wrote:It will be interesting to see what beefy rules GW come up with for the new codex. If GW follow on suit then we will probably find ourselves facing a Monolith with armour 15!! lol

Nah..that'll be silly.
A monolith with WBB on the otherhand...

More like a Monolith without the crazy special rules on its ring pop.

salix_fatuus wrote:I so fear that Matt (cursed) Ward is the one who wrote the new Necron codex since he will most certainly f*ck up the codex like all others he defiled...

To be fair, he only f*cks up the fluff. He does some overpowered rules, but if everyone is overpowered, then is it really overpowered?

**salix_fatuus**

Yes since that means many units will be worthless since those that are "overpowered" will be the only one worth taking (funny when everyone have the same list) and I dont think he will give every team the same treatment. But yes as you said he f*cks up the fluff and I personally love the fluff and really dont want him to f*ck it all up.