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Hi, I'm thinking of starting a Salamander army, this is the rough list I have so far:

HQ

Vulkan He’stan - 190 pts

Troops

10 man Tactical squad w/ 1 flamer, 1 melta-gun, Sergeant with power fist – 195 pts
Rhino w/ dozer blade – 40 pts

10 man Tactical squad w/ 1 flamer, 1 melta-gun, Sergeant with power fist – 195 pts
Rhino w/ dozer blade – 40 pts

5 man Scout squad w/ Camo-cloaks, Sergeant with Combi-melta -100 pts

Elites

5 man Terminator Assault squad – 3 w/ T-hammer and S-Shield, 2 w/ Lightning Claws – 200 pts

Ironclad Dreadnought w/ Heavy flamer – 145 pts
Drop Pod – 35 pts

Fast Attack

Squadron of 2 land speeders w/ Multi-Meltas - 120 pts

Heavy Support

Land Raider Redeemer – 240 pts

Total = 1500 pts

Pretty obvious, Vulkan and the termies go in the land raider, the tactical squads sit on objectives. Scouts are a distration, and Ironclad and and Land speeders for anti-tank. Please C+C, thanks

Tactical Squads can't take 2 special weapons. You can take either the meltagun or the flamer not both. Then for a heavy weapon I suggest taking either a missile launcher or mm. I would break up The land speeders into two groups. The dreadnaught is going to die fast with out support. Here is a List you might want to try.

HQ

Vulkan He’stan - 190 pts

Troops

10 man Tactical squad w/ 1 melta-gun, 1 missile launcher, Sergeant with combi-melta, powerfist – 210 pts
Rhino – 35 pts

10 man Tactical squad w/ 1 melta-gun, 1 missile launcher, Sergeant with combi-melta, powerfist – 210 pts
Rhino – 35 pts

Elites

5 man Terminator Assault squad – 5 w/ T-hammer and S-Shield, – 200 pts

Fast Attack

Landspeeder- mm/heavyflamer 70 pts

Landspeeder- mm/heavyflamer 70 pts


Heavy Support

Land Raider Redeemer – 240 pts

Predator- lascannon sponsons 120 pts

Predator- lascannon sponsons 120 pts

It's not optimal but it's better than your list was. (Sorry to say).

starraptor wrote:Tactical Squads can't take 2 special weapons. You can take either the meltagun or the flamer not both. Then for a heavy weapon I suggest taking either a missile launcher or mm. I would break up The land speeders into two groups. The dreadnaught is going to die fast with out support. Here is a List you might want to try.

HQ

Vulkan He’stan - 190 pts

Troops

10 man Tactical squad w/ 1 melta-gun, 1 missile launcher, Sergeant with combi-melta, powerfist – 210 pts
Rhino – 35 pts

10 man Tactical squad w/ 1 melta-gun, 1 missile launcher, Sergeant with combi-melta, powerfist – 210 pts
Rhino – 35 pts

Elites

5 man Terminator Assault squad – 5 w/ T-hammer and S-Shield, – 200 pts

Fast Attack

Landspeeder- mm/heavyflamer 70 pts

Landspeeder- mm/heavyflamer 70 pts


Heavy Support

Land Raider Redeemer – 240 pts

Predator- lascannon sponsons 120 pts

Predator- lascannon sponsons 120 pts

It's not optimal but it's better than your list was. (Sorry to say).

this is a good list but IMHO, Replace the preds with vindicators.

The Redeemer is lacking anti tank. Needs a MM. In addition it's primary job is to deliver the Termies. Without Extra Armour your going to get glanced to a standstill and an expensive (and vital) units going to end up doing nothing.
I'd trade the squads MM (I'm assuming thats the heavy weapon you were meaning) with a Missile for long range transport busting/horde killing. Give the squad a meltagun and give the SGT a combi flamer (rarely do you get a chance to use flamers more than once anyways) along with the PF.
TH/SS on all Termies. Why wound MEQ on a 4 when you can kill them on a 2? Plus you get a better chance to insta-kill HQs.
Speeders should have MM and HF.
Dreanoughts get killed the turn they land from some MC or Demon Prince or meltagun...these days their better at fire support than getting in close.
You also short on psychic. With the plethora of GKs, Eldrad, TMCs granting FNP, etc you need to shut that down. Not to mention making your opponent reroll all his invul saves against your hammers.
So:
Vulkan
Libby (Terminator, Storm Shild, Null zone, Avenger)
Tac Sqd (meltagun, LasCannon, SGT w PF/Combi-flamer, Rhino)
Tac Sqd (meltagun, LasCannon, SGT w PF/Combi-flamer, Rhino)
Terminator Sqd (5x TH/SS)
LR Redeemer (Extra Armor, MM)
Dreadnought (Rifleman)
Land Speeder (HF/MM)

Tyranids? Tyranids. wrote:

starraptor wrote:Tactical Squads can't take 2 special weapons. You can take either the meltagun or the flamer not both. Then for a heavy weapon I suggest taking either a missile launcher or mm. I would break up The land speeders into two groups. The dreadnaught is going to die fast with out support. Here is a List you might want to try.

HQ

Vulkan He’stan - 190 pts

Troops

10 man Tactical squad w/ 1 melta-gun, 1 missile launcher, Sergeant with combi-melta, powerfist – 210 pts
Rhino – 35 pts

10 man Tactical squad w/ 1 melta-gun, 1 missile launcher, Sergeant with combi-melta, powerfist – 210 pts
Rhino – 35 pts

Elites

5 man Terminator Assault squad – 5 w/ T-hammer and S-Shield, – 200 pts

Fast Attack

Landspeeder- mm/heavyflamer 70 pts

Landspeeder- mm/heavyflamer 70 pts


Heavy Support

Land Raider Redeemer – 240 pts

Predator- lascannon sponsons 120 pts

Predator- lascannon sponsons 120 pts

It's not optimal but it's better than your list was. (Sorry to say).

this is a good list but IMHO, Replace the preds with vindicators.

I made the list in a hurry replace one of the powerfists with a mm and extra armor for the land raider and it will be better. I like predators in vulcan lists better because it gives you much needed long range fire power, which you use to pop light vehichles while your'e meltas take care of hard targets.

starraptor wrote:Tactical Squads can't take 2 special weapons. You can take either the meltagun or the flamer not both. Then for a heavy weapon I suggest taking either a missile launcher or mm. I would break up The land speeders into two groups. The dreadnaught is going to die fast with out support. Here is a List you might want to try.

HQ

Vulkan He’stan - 190 pts

Troops

10 man Tactical squad w/ 1 melta-gun, 1 missile launcher, Sergeant with combi-melta, powerfist – 210 pts
Rhino – 35 pts

10 man Tactical squad w/ 1 melta-gun, 1 missile launcher, Sergeant with combi-melta, powerfist – 210 pts
Rhino – 35 pts

Elites

5 man Terminator Assault squad – 5 w/ T-hammer and S-Shield, – 200 pts

Fast Attack

Landspeeder- mm/heavyflamer 70 pts

Landspeeder- mm/heavyflamer 70 pts


Heavy Support

Land Raider Redeemer – 240 pts

Predator- lascannon sponsons 120 pts

Predator- lascannon sponsons 120 pts

It's not optimal but it's better than your list was. (Sorry to say).

Sorry, I was supposed to say Multi-melta.

Either of the amended lists work, wither with Preds of Vindicators. With Salamanders I found having 2-3 Drop pods coming in but your force is more mech based. At 1500 I have found 2 Tac squads in Drop Pods and an Ironclad in Pod work well against a wide range of opponents.

Thanks for all your advice, it was very helpful.