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So, you can get 8 battlewagons using them as transport for Nobz using them as heavy support and using Nobz as a troop choice.
Looking at this list, it really looks hard to crack, but no I have not played it.
I only wish I had 8 battlewagons

HQ : 180

Warboss
PK
@ 90

Warboss
PK
@ 90

Troops: 573

3 Nobz
1 PK
BW
Deff
4 Rokkit
@ 225

3 Nobz
1 PK
BW
Deff
4 Rokkit
@ 225

11 shoota boyz
1 Nobz
1 PK
1 rokkit boyz
@ 123

Elite: 655

3 Nobz
1 PK
BW
Deff
4BS
@ 215

3 Nobz
1 PK
BW
Deff
4 Rokkit
@ 225

3 Nobz
1 PK
BW
Deff
4 BS
@ 215

Heavy support: 590

BW
KillKannon
Deff
4 BS
@ 190

BW
Killkannon
Deff
4 rokkit
@ 210

BW
killkannon
Deff
4 BS
@ 190

TOTAL: 1998

I dont like Killkannon so much, might be a good idea to swap that out for more Nobz or more dakka it is 180 points in Killkannons
So before I invest in a stupid amount of Battlewagons, can somebody please tell me why this sucks

THANKS

Well, it may not be too bad of an investment if you get some of those 1/48-1/35 military models or those cheap toy trucks to convert. Otherwise this is why this gimmick list will fail hardcore

1. Lack of troops. You have 6 nobz and 12 boy mob. That would be incredibly easy to kill off making it very hard to win objectives (and for another matter KP)

2. Lack of anti mech fire power. You might think that all those rokkits would do something but if you keep moving then you're limited to about a 30" BS2 single rokkit per wagon. Not too good of chances to crack open anywhere from 6-10 rhinos, raiders, chimeras, etc. Especially other wagonspam lists. Truth be told this IS the weakness of wagon spams but the point I'm getting at is that you do not need to waste points of 4 rokkits each wagon.

3. Lack of protection. Most wagonspam lists really rely on KFF meks. Yes its cookie cutter but you're basically giving your wagons a 50/50 chance to ignore enemy firepower. That is huge when taking into account how badly your opponents want to take them down.

4. Lack of cargo. You have some min sized nobs with unarmored warbosses. Thats not too scary even with 8 wagons. Most wagon spams have 5-6 wagons. 3 full of 20 boy mobs and the rest with much larger and more resilient nobz with painboys/etc. These carry much more weight to tackle on targets that the BW cant finish off/take on their own

You will want a weapon on the BW for damage reasons. I think a big shoota is cheaper and is more likely to hit given the number of shots. Usually go for both kannon as a defensive weapon and the shoota as a cheap add on.

1. I can drop the killkannons for more troops 120 points worth of grots or boyz

2. I dont see the point of not having rokkits, 16 rokkits of BS 2 = 5 hits for 160 points it seems effective. Also 8 deffrollas is insane for hitting things

KFF is good, but AV 14 is not easy to break by any weapon, even a lascannon needs a 5 to glance front AV, and if they are all lined up you would only see the sides of the ones on the outside. ( does that make sense )

I could drop 1 warboss and 1 elite wagon for a Mek with KFF and use the other points for more troops or 7 heavy weapons lol, I still would have 7 Battlewagons! With a KFF ( but not all of them will be in range of KFF )

AllYourBase wrote:
2. I dont see the point of not having rokkits, 16 rokkits of BS 2 = 5 hits for 160 points it seems effective. Also 8 deffrollas is insane for hitting things

But it conflicts with the deffrolla. If you're sitting still to shoot rokkits then you're not moving closer to use the rollas. And even if you were referring to 2 turns of 8 wagons shooting, thats 5 hits over two turns. You still have to worry about armor and then the extent of the damage. I'm not saying that rokkits are bad, I'm just saying that giving all wagons 4 rokkits isnt a good use of points. 1 rokkit should be plenty.

Also yes take off the kill kannons. They are expensive, conflict with the rokkits if you're moving, and at S7 they're not going to scare anything outside of marines out in the open

I know the deffrollas are better for hitting, but there is no way all 8 are going to be deffrolling. The ones that are not deffrollin can at least do shootin.. Yeah the Kannons are easy to remove yeah its a big blast but I think the deffrollas are way better at killing troops ( 60 points is way way overpriced )

Why do a 2k Ork Battlewagon spam list if you aren't going to go full slow with it?
Here is a 1.5k Battlewagon spam list, which is basically the same as your current list, and only minorly less effective
Battlewagon equipment. 1 Big Shoota, Red Paint, Deff rolla. 120 pts ea.
HQ
Warboss, PK(85)
Big Mek, KFF(85)
Elites
3 Nobs, 1 PK, Dedicated Battlewagon 205
3 Nobs, 1 PK, Dedicated Battlewagon 205
3 Nobs, 1 PK, Dedicated Battlewagon 205
Troops
3 Nobs, 1 PK, Dedicated Battlewagon 205
18 Boys, Nob PK BP 148
Heavy Support
Battlewagon 120
Battlewagon 120
Battlewagon 120

If you were to use that list as a base for your plan, you will have 502 points of "play" with how you mix it up. For example, you could bring 2 other groups of 18 boys to fill out the wagons, while still having 206 points to kit out any of your nobs, or your HQs.
With those 206 points, you could give both HQ's cybork bodies, and increase each unit of nobs by 2 nobs(thus making it 5 nob squads.)
Even after all those changes, you STILL have 26 points left over. Thats enough to bring 1 more nob, and give your warboss 'Eavy armor!
What once was 8 battlewagons that MIGHT fire a gun, being destroyed the instant they get penetrated(remember, open topped.) is now 7 battlewagons, where it is entirely possible to have them all in KFF range by doing a phalanx formation.
Also, regarding the meat of your army. You have 29 models, not counting the battlewagons. With this list, you have 77.
Now, 77 models still feels way too low for a 2000 point game, but you are bringing more than twice as many as before. Dropping another battlewagon frees up room for more nobs, as well as upgrades for your nobs(potentially a painboy?).
Having 5-6, in my experience, is a nice number. It isn't too few that you aren't spamming battlewagons, but it isn't too many that it limits what you can do BESIDES tankshock.

Sorry for the wall of text, I just love seeing these kinds of silly lists and want them to work.

I think a good point has just been raised: How serious are you? You can get quite a few battlewagons and give them awesome support and then win battles. Or do you want to test your enemies ability to destroy av14 head on or to 'outflank' and hit their sides.

I totally forgot, if you move you can only fire 1 weapon, ahh man now I see all the wasted points. So I can fill out my troops & make a 1.5k list with maybe 5 BW or a 2k list with 6-7

This list could be loads better if using the right wargear and also sacrificed a single Battlewagon to get a Big Mek. Why does a Battlewagon need 4 rokkits when it can only fire one if it moves? There's a lot better and more needed wargear out there. Try this list:

Warboss - power klaw
Big Mek - kustom force field

3 x Nob w/ Battlewagon - power klaw - Battlewagon w/ deffrolla, red paint job, armour plates & big shoota
3 x Nob w/ Battlewagon - power klaw - Battlewagon w/ deffrolla, red paint job, armour plates & big shoota
3 x Nob w/ Battlewagon - power klaw - Battlewagon w/ deffrolla, red paint job, armour plates & big shoota

3 x Nob w/ Battlewagon - power klaw - Battlewagon w/ deffrolla, red paint job, armour plates & big shoota
12 x Boyz - nob w/ power klaw
12 x Boyz - nob w/ power klaw
12 x Boyz - nob w/ power klaw
10 x Gretchin - Runtherd

2 x Warbuggies - twin-linked rokkits
2 x Warbuggies - twin-linked rokkits
2 x Warbuggies - twin-linked rokkits

Battlewagon - deffrolla, red paint job, armour plates & big shoota
Battlewagon - deffrolla, red paint job, armour plates & big shoota
Battlewagon - deffrolla, red paint job, armour plates & big shoota

Check points because I haven't, but that can't be far off 2k. Battlewagon count is 7 and now got a Big Mek for 4+ cover save, faster moving Battlewagons to deffrolla something, Warbuggies for blast something and Gretchin to hold a objective while your Battlewagons zoom off.

Hey thanks for your comments mercer, but I said I am going to trade a warboss for a KFF and I am taking off the extra weapons, I forgot I can not move and shoot all weapons. But valid points non the less


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I think this list now, that i have removed a lot of points would be great with MANZ, the reason most people do not use them because they get blow up by lascannons and other Anti Armor weapons, but now that I have 6-7 BW they can really split up the opponents AP2 high str shots

I probably wouldn't take Meganobz TBH, and Meganobz were also the first thing I looked at when writing the above list for you. Reason I dropped them is because three normal Nobz are cheaper. Now the Meganobz are more survivable against small arms fire e.g bolters but really it's going to be plasma, meltas and lascannons going for Meganobz which will kill them just as quickly as normal Nobz. I think it's oranges and apples at the end of the day and you try which unit you think is best - Meganobz or Nobz.

You have 10 BWs in your list Merc and 3 on your boys mobs which is illegal. I assume you mean trukks?

Copy and past feth up. No Battlewagons on the Boyz, will edit. Cookie for you Ratius

How about this 1500 point BW spam with all notes and ideas taken in

Elites: 705

3 MANz
BW
Deff
BS
@ 235
X3

Heavy Support: 345
BW
Deff
BS
@115
X3

Troop: 354
11 Shootas
1 Nobz
1 PK
1 BP
@118
X3

HQ: 95
Big Mek
KFF
Cybork

Total 1499

The reason I am going with the MANz is because the same weapons used to kill BWs is the same used to kill MANz. I know @ 1500 points most people do not have enough AP2 high str weapons to deal with both of these.
It fields 6 BW and 12 PK, sounds scary.

That's pretty cool man.