Why is there no well established STAR WARS based Wargame?

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**CptJake**

mwnciboo wrote:I realised the other day that a Flames of War style STAR WARS Wargame would be brilliant. Yet, no one has really grabbed this mantle, Wizards of the Coast and the previous license holders have tried but they have never really had wide ranging success despite the obvious appeal of the Franchaise. Why is that? Is it because the miniatures came in random packs so you never knew what you were getting? Was it the quality of the models? Was it the lack of thought or a poor ruleset?

I wish Battlefront would get hold of it and give it a Flames of War style make over! Firestorm Campaigns with Miniature starships on large Stellar Maps landing troops and then fighting out battles on tactical boards! AT-ST's with Companies of Storm Troopers assaulting positions, with ATATs in support. Rebel Commando's, Infilitate abilities, assault shuttles, Imperial Tanks etc. Early period (Old Republic) Mid Period (New Hope) Late (New Republic).

I think STAR WARS needs a good Wargaming Franchise with some staying power and some gorgeous miniatures for us to paint? WINGS OF WAR Style Starfighter combat? Your thoughts?

You want it, you got it: http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_minisite.asp?eidm=174

Also, to be fair, West End Games had Star Wars Miniatures Battles.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/7420/star-wars-miniatures-battles

Jake

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If you want really nice minis to paint, Knight Models has some very nice ones: http://www.knightmodels.com/30mm_hansolo_visor_ing.html

Jake

**CptJake**

X-wing isn't even released yet. It is done by the same folks who do Wings of War and is supposed to be very simialr in style. How can you say it is not "mainstream enough or successful " when it hasn't even been released? Wings of War took off, I suspect this will too.

The minis by Knight Models 30mm Star Wars range is in production and readliy available. And they add to the admittedly limited range, it has doubled in size over the last year. Heck, the range itself is pretty darned new.

**CptJake**

mwnciboo wrote:...I think STAR WARS needs a good Wargaming Franchise with some staying power and some gorgeous miniatures for us to paint? WINGS OF WAR Style Starfighter combat?

When shown that it is on the way states:

mwnciboo wrote:...even with Wings of War as forebear we are not going to see large numbers of fighters in battle or starships are we?

Yeah, I would say " we are a contrary bunch " comes close.

**CptJake**

Have you seem these:

http://studiobergstrom.com/index.php?categoryID=74

http://studiobergstrom.com/index.php?categoryID=40

http://studiobergstrom.com/index.php?categoryID=83

http://studiobergstrom.com/index.php?categoryID=84

Some other company makes similar stuff.

Plenty of Space fleet rules out there, many with Star Wars mods/stats.

yes, not 'main stream', but then again space fleet gaming isn't main stream either.

In regards to X-Wing, it is supposed to have different mechanics than Wings of War, but will have similarities. I'm not sure why you couldn't repaint the ships as you see fit. Lots of folks repaint prepainted figures.

Future War Commander is a 'epic scale' ground combat game. I know there are Star Wars stats for it.

There are 15mm Star Wars minis if you look for them. Someone recently released a Han Solo, Boba Fett and Chewie for example. Plenty of 15mm troops could be used as both rebels and empire forces...

**CptJake**

There are plenty of Star Trek games... Even a upcoming game:

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/miniatures/ctastarfleet.html