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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/20 03:03:48
Subject: Gamers help AIDS research
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Dive-Bombin' Fighta-Bomba Pilot
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http://games.yahoo.com/blogs/plugged-in/online-gamers-crack-aids-enzyme-puzzle-161920724.html
Online gamers have achieved a feat beyond the realm of Second Life or Dungeons and Dragons: they have deciphered the structure of an enzyme of an AIDS-like virus that had thwarted scientists for a decade.
The exploit is published on Sunday in the journal Nature Structural & Molecular Biology, where -- exceptionally in scientific publishing -- both gamers and researchers are honoured as co-authors.
Their target was a monomeric protease enzyme, a cutting agent in the complex molecular tailoring of retroviruses, a family that includes HIV.
Figuring out the structure of proteins is vital for understanding the causes of many diseases and developing drugs to block them.
But a microscope gives only a flat image of what to the outsider looks like a plate of one-dimensional scrunched-up spaghetti. Pharmacologists, though, need a 3-D picture that "unfolds" the molecule and rotates it in order to reveal potential targets for drugs.
This is where Foldit comes in.
Developed in 2008 by the University of Washington, it is a fun-for-purpose video game in which gamers, divided into competing groups, compete to unfold chains of amino acids -- the building blocks of proteins -- using a set of online tools.
To the astonishment of the scientists, the gamers produced an accurate model of the enzyme in just three weeks.
Cracking the enzyme "provides new insights for the design of antiretroviral drugs," says the study, referring to the lifeline medication against the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV).
It is believed to be the first time that gamers have resolved a long-standing scientific problem.
"We wanted to see if human intuition could succeed where automated methods had failed," Firas Khatib of the university's biochemistry lab said in a press release. "The ingenuity of game players is a formidable force that, if properly directed, can be used to solve a wide range of scientific problems."
One of Foldit's creators, Seth Cooper, explained why gamers had succeeded where computers had failed.
"People have spatial reasoning skills, something computers are not yet good at," he said.
"Games provide a framework for bringing together the strengths of computers and humans. The results in this week's paper show that gaming, science and computation can be combined to make advances that were not possible before."
Feth the rest of society, we're curing AIDS people!
Discuss please...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/20 03:07:01
Subject: Re:Gamers help AIDS research
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Veteran ORC
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FETH YEAH!
Play Portal, solve physics problems!
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I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/20 03:12:26
Subject: Gamers help AIDS research
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I saw that story. I really liked how people are helping in fun and creative ways.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/20 04:43:03
Subject: Re:Gamers help AIDS research
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
Sitting in yo' bath tub, poopin out shoggoths
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Slarg232 wrote:FETH YEAH!
Play Portal, solve physics problems!
Challenge accepted
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/20 08:26:13
Subject: Re:Gamers help AIDS research
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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"You can't just stay home playing computer games all your life! What are you gonna do for a living?
I'll create a vaccine for AIDS, mom!"
Brilliant job!
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For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/20 11:39:41
Subject: Gamers help AIDS research
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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I saw the title and assumed that they had used some basement dwelling neckbeards as a control group for HIV incidence in the non-reproductive. Close, same people, different experiment.
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How do you promote your Hobby? - Legoburner "I run some crappy wargaming website " |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/20 16:20:18
Subject: Gamers help AIDS research
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Fixture of Dakka
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notprop wrote:I saw the title and assumed that they had used some basement dwelling neckbeards as a control group for HIV incidence in the non-reproductive.
Close, same people, different experiment. 
"Quick, we need someone who has had 0% chance of ever being exposed to HIV to study!"
"I'll get on Dakka now!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/20 16:24:34
Subject: Gamers help AIDS research
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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This thread makes me feel happy...
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"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/20 16:50:43
Subject: Re:Gamers help AIDS research
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Dive-Bombin' Fighta-Bomba Pilot
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All they have to do now is create a game that forces the gamers to crack the protein needed for the vaccine and then we can move on to curing cancer next month!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/20 16:51:37
Subject: Gamers help AIDS research
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
In the chaotic wastes also known as Canada
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DOOMFART's Drunken Rugby Player FOR DOOMFART! FOR GES! FOR DAKKA!!!! Kanluwen wrote:Cadian Blood and Soul Hunter?
They're like kidnapping someone, and forcefeeding them heroin until they're hooked. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/20 17:00:18
Subject: Gamers help AIDS research
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Fixture of Dakka
On a boat, Trying not to die.
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Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:notprop wrote:I saw the title and assumed that they had used some basement dwelling neckbeards as a control group for HIV incidence in the non-reproductive.
Close, same people, different experiment. 
"Quick, we need someone who has had 0% chance of ever being exposed to HIV to study!"
"I'll get on Dakka now!"
Well, you're on here, so you kinda disprove your own theory.
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Every Normal Man Must Be Tempted At Times To Spit On His Hands, Hoist That Black Flag, And Begin Slitting Throats. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/20 17:03:57
Subject: Gamers help AIDS research
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Infiltrating Hawwa'
Through the looking glass
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Not a big fan of how they mentioned second life, D&D, and gamers. Well that and how they grouped the three together, as if playing games means you play D&D and second life, and vice versa and all that (as a side note, I like D&D and gaming).
Anyways, yeah the article comes off to me as them saying that if you are a gamer you will never accomplish anything worth mentioning.
Still, interesting read.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/20 18:28:30
Subject: Gamers help AIDS research
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Dive-Bombin' Fighta-Bomba Pilot
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Necroshea wrote:Not a big fan of how they mentioned second life, D&D, and gamers. Well that and how they grouped the three together, as if playing games means you play D&D and second life, and vice versa and all that (as a side note, I like D&D and gaming).
Anyways, yeah the article comes off to me as them saying that if you are a gamer you will never accomplish anything worth mentioning.
Still, interesting read.
This confuses me...I get what you're saying about D&D and second life being in there but how does an article about gamers accomplishing something that scientist have been unable to for decades come off as "them saying that if you are a gamer you will never accomplish anything worth mentioning."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/20 19:15:50
Subject: Gamers help AIDS research
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Second Life is a game. It's a simulation. It's a different kind of game than you're used to. But it is still a game.
Same with DnD. It's a pen and paper game.
Dunno.
Anyway, glad to hear they're trying to harness human ingenuity in creative ways.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/20 20:37:17
Subject: Gamers help AIDS research
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Infiltrating Hawwa'
Through the looking glass
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WARORK93 wrote:Necroshea wrote:Not a big fan of how they mentioned second life, D&D, and gamers. Well that and how they grouped the three together, as if playing games means you play D&D and second life, and vice versa and all that (as a side note, I like D&D and gaming).
Anyways, yeah the article comes off to me as them saying that if you are a gamer you will never accomplish anything worth mentioning.
Still, interesting read.
This confuses me...I get what you're saying about D&D and second life being in there but how does an article about gamers accomplishing something that scientist have been unable to for decades come off as "them saying that if you are a gamer you will never accomplish anything worth mentioning."
"Online gamers have achieved a feat beyond the realm of Second Life or Dungeons and Dragons: they have deciphered the structure of an enzyme of an AIDS-like virus that had thwarted scientists for a decade. "
The way I interpreted this was something like this.
"Online gamers can't manage to do anything beyond the scope of second life or dungeons and dragons. That is until now"
A better way of writing it would have been like this
"Online gamers have managed to accomplish what scientists have been trying to do for a decade, they have deciphered the structure of an enzyme of an AIDS-like virus"
Melissia wrote:Second Life is a game. It's a simulation. It's a different kind of game than you're used to. But it is still a game.
It's just odd they would lump in second life with the term online gamers and d&d players. When I think of online gaming, I imagine games like CoD, WoW, Eve, etc. etc. When I think of D&D, I think of people sitting around a table throwing bones. When I think of second life players, I see people in a chat room with a visual appeal.
I'm sure it's just me. After all I'm the only one taking it this way so I'm more than willing to bet I'm jumping at imaginary slights here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/20 20:50:27
Subject: Gamers help AIDS research
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
Imperium - Vondolus Prime
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Looks like it's time again to latch onto the success of others that share my interests.
Hell yes.
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All is forgiven if repaid in Traitor's blood. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/21 01:07:41
Subject: Gamers help AIDS research
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Dive-Bombin' Fighta-Bomba Pilot
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Goddard wrote:Looks like it's time again to latch onto the success of others that share my interests.
Hell yes.
Not sure if serious...or just sarcastic...
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