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Pretty slow news day, but hey, neutrinos may be capable of traveling faster than the speed of light.

So, there's that.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15017484

What. The. Hell.

They must be jumping into the Warp. Either that, or we're all fethed.

I saw that, really quite amazing if this can be confirmed.

Especially since neutrinos aren't bosons.

Gentlemen, to Wales!
It's time to do science!

Pfff, Im been doing things faster then the speed of light for years. Like sex as an example.

KingCracker wrote:Pfff, Im been doing things faster then the speed of light for years. Like sex as an example.

-stops timer on stopwatch-

Huh...that was fast...

As for travelling faster than light? Wake me up when they make the Kessel run in less than twelve parsecs...

WARORK93 wrote:

KingCracker wrote:Pfff, Im been doing things faster then the speed of light for years. Like sex as an example.

-stops timer on stopwatch-

Huh...that was fast...

As for travelling faster than light? Wake me up when they make the Kessel run in less than twelve parsecs...

Parsec is a unit of distance, WARORK. Thus, we can assume that the Kessel run is >12 Parsecs, meaning that we will never have an answer on why the feth women hate me.

Chowderhead wrote:Parsec is a unit of distance, WARORK. Thus, we can assume that the Kessel run is >12 Parsecs, meaning that we will never have an answer on why the feth women hate me.

Yes Chowder but when talking about faster than light travel for something as big as a ship we're talking about wormholes...given the relationship between time and space and the statement implies that the Kessel run is more than twelve parsecs, if one were to take a shortcut through time and space like Solo did they would not only cover less distance it would go faster...

I think...

This is what happens when I get into a physics argument: I'm usually wrong and I end up with a headache...

Chowderhead wrote:Parsec is a unit of distance, WARORK. Thus, we can assume that the Kessel run is >12 Parsecs, meaning that we will never have an answer on why the feth women hate me.

I know that this would be groundbreaking in the world of Physics, but will this affect my day to day life at all? Serious question mind you, every time they find out something crazy radical like this the whole world seems to get flipped upside down for abit. Personally I'm hoping for time travel or space colonies currently

In fact, this would affect your daily life every time you walk up to a rocket scientist and make a claim that nothing is faster than the sped of light. Await the resulting nerdrage.

Arg.

Chowderhead wrote:What. The. Hell.

They must be jumping into the Warp. Either that, or we're all fethed.

Or our understanding of physics will finally be reviewed and altered slightly.
But the idea of them causing a huge implosion is much more interesting.

If there is no lightspeed limit it means that communications get faster and work for longer distance, this means faster internet connections for everywhere on earth eventually.

It also means we can travel and communicate in space relatively practically, this means that we may not stay on this planet and stagnate much longer.

Woot. Will be following this with interest.

Don't get too excited though. We are talking "a few billionths of second faster".....

sarpedons-right-hand wrote:Don't get too excited though. We are talking "a few billionths of second faster".....

That's utterly irrelevant. If the findings hold up, one of the most-tested theorems in
Physics will be thrown into question. A few billionths doesn't sound like much, but I'm betting Relativity has been tested to far tighter levels elsewhere. Heck, iirc, the GPS cluster provides pretty much constant testing of some if the implications of Relativity to at least that level of accuracy. I'd personally vet there's a problem with the experiment.

'course I'm also not a physicist...

Valete,

JohnS

cygnnus wrote:

sarpedons-right-hand wrote:Don't get too excited though. We are talking "a few billionths of second faster".....

That's utterly irrelevant. If the findings hold up, one of the most-tested theorems in
Physics will be thrown into question. A few billionths doesn't sound like much, but I'm betting Relativity has been tested to far tighter levels elsewhere. Heck, iirc, the GPS cluster provides pretty much constant testing of some if the implications of Relativity to at least that level of accuracy. I'd personally vet there's a problem with the experiment.

'course I'm also not a physicist...

Valete,

JohnS

Dude, I was kidding..... Of course it's important. However, like most things that have been discovered, it'll be an accident. Some nerd in an underground bunker in Italy has discovered that neutrinos could move faster than light. Does this mean Einstien was wrong?

The way I look at it, is every great mind, is proved wrong eventually. How long did we think Newton was the be all of science theory? He was proven wrong eventually too. To me, they might be proven wrong eventually, but they are still much needed at the time they are alive.

One billionth of a second still accounts to 6km/s faster than the speed of light.

This, people could be one, if not the greatest, physics science discovery of our time.

However, I must warn you all that CERN have stated that it could be a systematic error of the system. By that, I mean that their readings or calculations may be slightly offset. Howevern their normal error margin is of only 10 nanoseconds, and we have here a different of approximately 60nanoseconds.

This neutrino could therefore either disprove relativity or just be an error.

Does anyone know what type of neutrino it was?

It's quite likely to be an error in measurement.

Why would they release this information that they're not sure about when it will make them look like buffoons if they find out it's an error?

Because they would release their findings regardless, and then they'd try to duplicate said findings in a later study, or someone else would.

The media, however, doesn't give a damn. It just wants exciting news.

Melissia wrote:Because they would release their findings regardless, and then they'd try to duplicate said findings in a later study, or someone else would.

The media, however, doesn't give a damn. It just wants exciting news.

Reminded me of this

That's pretty much how the media works.

Sensationalism is more profitable than reporting the truth.

Regrettable. Lies and half truths only obscure the world and distort reality.

The experiment in question was testing a phenomena in which neutrinos just switch flavour for seemingly no reason so asking which kind of neutrino was used is slightly redundant.

I saw some clip on youtube, that was a news clip of a scientist and his students that says hes done experiments that went faster then light speed many times. Of course the general scientific community said the guy was crazy or something. Ill have to see if I can find it again. Just saying, there is at least 1 other guy that says its possible

There's also probably at least one guy saying that having your internal organs replaced with origami will not only improve your life expectancy, but make you a better person.

Thats not really a valid argument. Obviously cutting out your organs and replacing them with paper frogs and swans is a bad thing. The speed of light, is only theoretical and so far hasnt been proven to be the top speed of things. Like I was getting at earlier, science changes over the course of time, we used to think the planet was flat, and that the Earth was the center of our solar system. Hell go far enough back, and we worshiped the sun as a God

Perhaps, but if they reproduce the experiment, it still lends FAR more credence than a single experiment.