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Ok, my first army was Blood Angels. I ran a doa list, and was slaughtered all the time. I've since played other armies, and only recently taken another look through my BA codex. I've come up with a list of angels that don't know how to fly. Let me know what you think

HQ
Librarian- Terminator Armor, Storm Shield, Might of Heroes, Shield of Sanguinius
Reclusiarch- Terminator Armor with Storm Bolter

305

Elite
Terminator Assault Squad x5- Thunder Hammer w/Storm Shield x4, Land Raider Crusader w/Multi-Melta, Extra Armor
Sanguinary Priest x3- Power Weapon x3
Sanguinary Priest x3- Power Weapon x2, Terminator Armor w/Power Weapon

905

Troops
Assault Squad x5- Melta Gun, Razor Back w/Twin Linked Las Cannon
Assault Squad x5- Melta Gun, Razor Back w/Twin Linked Las Cannon
Assault Squad x5- Melta Gun, Razor Back w/Twin Linked Las Cannon
Assault Squad x5- Melta Gun, Razor Back w/Twin Linked Las Cannon
Assault Squad x5- Melta Gun, Razor Back w/Twin Linked Las Cannon

825

Heavy Support
Vindicator- Siege Shield
Vindicator- Siege Shield
Vindicator- Siege Shield

465

Total- 2500

Obviously I got a little carried away with the 8 terminators being packed into the LR. Otherwise, the Razor Backs and Vindicators running around going 12" ever turn should do some damage

Too many Sanguinary Priest's IMO.

Also some AC/Las Predators would give this army more firepower.

Also, dont use TL Lascannons, either use TL Assault Cannons, or Lascannon/Plasmagun, both are good and have their strengths.

I agree totally with deathreaper.

6 sanguinary priests is waaaay too many. stick with 3, maybe 4.

Fast razorbacks, so I would be tempted for TL assault cannon. It's fairly easy to get them into range (due to them being fast), and sheer weight of shots is superb.

Also not convinced about the vindicators. (thats could just be me though). I too would prefer to see predators.

Firstly, you need to swap out might of heroes for unleash rage. This will make your terminator squad incredibly nasty on the charge.

You can afford to drop the reclusiarch completely, he doesn't really add anything extra if you have unleash rage.

I'd drop all the power weapons on the priests (give thm to the squad sergeants if you really need them). Also you only need three priests between the razorbacks at most and one in the landraider.

I'd swap one vindicator out for an auto/las predator. Also, you don't really need siege shields on the vindis, count them as dozerblades.

As for the razorbacks I'd run them as half las/plas half assault cannons.

With the saved points from the priests and chaplain you could get a sixth razorback or a pair of baal predators (I like the assault cannon/ heavy bolter variety personally)

Hope this has been some help!

DoomMouse wrote:Firstly, you need to swap out might of heroes for unleash rage. This will make your terminator squad incredibly nasty on the charge.

You can afford to drop the reclusiarch completely, he doesn't really add anything extra if you have unleash rage.

I'd drop all the power weapons on the priests (give thm to the squad sergeants if you really need them). Also you only need three priests between the razorbacks at most and one in the landraider.

I'd swap one vindicator out for an auto/las predator. Also, you don't really need siege shields on the vindis, count them as dozerblades.

As for the razorbacks I'd run them as half las/plas half assault cannons.

With the saved points from the priests and chaplain you could get a sixth razorback or a pair of baal predators (I like the assault cannon/ heavy bolter variety personally)

Hope this has been some help!

I like the reclusiarch combined with the might of heroes from the librarian. LoH does automatically what unleash rage does, and then you get 1-3 extra attacks from moh. Also, the twin linked las cannons give me a better chance at hitting transports to pop them open. Once the transports are destroyed, the vindicators can stomp on whatever was riding inside them. As to getting rid of some priests...I dunno. I kinda like the idea of every squad having furious charge and fnp.

I'm not disputing that reclusiarch/librarian is a powerful combo, but I'd argue that it's not worth the masses of points you are investing in it. Termis+Priest+Libby+Chaplain+Landraider = around 800points! The chaplain is excessive, you could afford another tank instead.

TL lascannons give you an extra 2/9 chance of a lascannon hit per shot if you do the maths. I'd personally trade that for an extra tin linked plasma gun, which can help in poppoing transpots but also seriously hurt heavy infantry. You can move 6" and fire both.

As for the priests, if you play intelligently then three priests can easily cover five squads with furious charge/ feel no pain. The trick is to use them in union rather than independantly.

Yeah, the Reclusiarch/Librarian combo sounds great. So does giving each squad a Priest. The problem is that these things are luxuries, and you're spending 355 points on them. For such a high points level, you don't have that much on the table.

Instead, you could have 3 Baal Predators. I'd also take the Siege Shields down to Dozer Blades, and as others have suggested, give the Priests' Power Weapons to squad Sergeants. You should also swap the TL-Lascannons for Las/Plas; it's an easy conversion and will help a ton against GK.